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  • SSBN659
    Commander
    • Feb 2009
    • 417

    #106
    Good catch, and thanks Bill. I'm working with three different drawings in different scales which makes it confusing. I'm going back to the drawings and convert the measurements to a common scale with the same diameter. Once I've done that I'll check the measurements against the model and make any corrections. That's why a look at the Docking Plan would be nice.

    The two 3/4" openings on the underside centerline are for the model mounting posts. The base will be walnut but that's probably weeks away.

    Will Rogers
    SSBN659

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    • wlambing
      Commander

      • Nov 2020
      • 361

      #107
      Ah! Very nice work in any case!

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      • SSBN659
        Commander
        • Feb 2009
        • 417

        #108
        Scribing the details on the sail is a challenge. In an early post I said that scribing into wood would be difficult and I've proved myself correct. The sail is going to really make the model and I want it to be right so I'm trying a couple ways to see which works best. In the first picture you see the sail sitting in place in grey primer and glazing putty where I've made some corrections. In the next picture on the left I've filled in all the scribing with glazing putty, sprayed it with flat black primer and laid out the detail with pencil. You have to look closely to see that details are not scribed in. Might work but I've formed another sail out of a pink material similar to Renshape to see if it's easier to scribe. With temps over 100 F for last week and this I won't do much, if anything, until it cools down a bit.

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        • He Who Shall Not Be Named
          Moderator

          • Aug 2008
          • 13405

          #109
          On the few occasions where I have to scribe/engrave over a wooden substrate I first dig out 3/32" wide channels where the eventual scribing will take place, then back-fill those channels with Bondo. Much easier to scribe Bondo than cantankerous wood with its wavy wood grain patterns, knots, and sap

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          • SSBN659
            Commander
            • Feb 2009
            • 417

            #110
            Thanks David, I've tried filling in with glazing putty after first scribing but it's tough to make that work with glazing putty. i've also tried several layers of primer without luck. I haven't done scribing in several years so all this is taking more time than I thought it would. I just want to make this my best work. It will take more time than I thought - already been over a year since I started this model.

            Will Rogers
            SSBN659

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            • Subculture
              Admiral

              • Feb 2009
              • 2414

              #111
              Are you using a 2k glazing putty or the air dry stuff? The latter and paint are not rigid enough to provide a good scribe line.

              The putty tends to crumble and give way, and paint is often a bit too soft (unless it's 2k stuff).

              Polyester putty will work well, but you need to ensure the scribe line is entirely within the putty area, if you cross into harder or softer substrates, it'll make the line wander.

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              • CC Clarke
                Commander

                • Aug 2020
                • 293

                #112
                This has been a fun build to watch unfold as you work your way through each challenge!

                It was 111 here in Anthem yesterday. Luckily, my garage is air conditioned, so I can work on my current project comfortably.

                Keep up the great work!!

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                • SSBN659
                  Commander
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 417

                  #113
                  Thanks for the comments. I've used both of these products and I agree crumbling is a problem with the air dry putty. The Evercoat 2 part does work better on most parts but the sail is where I run into difficulty, probably because there are so many details to scribe at this scale. Anyway, I appreciate all the help and suggestions I get.

                  Will Rogers
                  SSBN659

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                  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                    Moderator

                    • Aug 2008
                    • 13405

                    #114
                    Originally posted by SSBN659
                    Thanks for the comments. I've used both of these products and I agree crumbling is a problem with the air dry putty. The Evercoat 2 part does work better on most parts but the sail is where I run into difficulty, probably because there are so many details to scribe at this scale. Anyway, I appreciate all the help and suggestions I get.

                    Will Rogers
                    SSBN659

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                    ... and the tools you use to engrave -- stencils and scribing tips -- make a big difference as to success or failure. And layout with use of a flat surface, machinist's surface gauge, proportional dividers, and 1-2-3 blocks are aids in assuring exacting lofting from two-dimensional drawing to three-dimensional subject.








































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                    • wlambing
                      Commander

                      • Nov 2020
                      • 361

                      #115
                      You may be already planning for this, so just a reminder that the running lights were raised on 751 & following by a ShipAlt, 'cos the "bow" wave when running at speed on the surface completely obliterated any light projection, thus making the lights verrrrrryyyyyyyy hard to see!! Any recent/current pictures of the forward 1/3 of a 688I sail should show those light positions and outlines. Keep pluggin', this is gonna be a nice model!!!

                      Take care,

                      Bill

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                      • SSBN659
                        Commander
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 417

                        #116
                        Thanks Bill, like this ?

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                        • DrSchmidt
                          Rear Admiral

                          • Apr 2014
                          • 1242

                          #117
                          Why does the surface of above sail look that funky? As if plating got lost....
                          Last edited by DrSchmidt; 07-05-2023, 02:59 PM.

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                          • wlambing
                            Commander

                            • Nov 2020
                            • 361

                            #118
                            That's the beastie! The light cover is a sheet of 5/16" thick Lexan screwed in place with a butt-ton of stainless flat-head screws. They are constantly being replaced when those vessels come in for refits.

                            Herr Doktor- The chunks you see missing are anechoic tiles that have torn off from water flow. Has been a problem for the 688 class since they started carrying those tiles. All of these coatings, for all nations using such, take a terrible beating in their natural environment!

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                            • SSBN659
                              Commander
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 417

                              #119
                              Appreciate the tips and help you folks are giving me. A couple of questions for those in the know out there. Are both the port side and starboard side covers the same? Also, what is this marked on the photo below. I found my original template for scribing although close needed some corrections.

                              Will Rogers
                              SSBN659

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                              • wlambing
                                Commander

                                • Nov 2020
                                • 361

                                #120
                                From the location, it appears to be an emergency stern light, used when the normal one atop the rudder is OOC. A good outboard profile drawing should ID it for sure. For the port/stbd lights- yes they are the same.

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