Converting the Bronco type XXIII to RC

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  • MFR1964
    Detail Nut of the First Order
    • Sep 2010
    • 1315

    David,

    Yeah, head first and hold your breath if things will work out well, everyone has to carry it's own burden.

    Thanks Peter,

    To me it's the best way to show how things work, pictures alone won't work, so adding a vid is a plus.


    Manfred.
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    • MFR1964
      Detail Nut of the First Order
      • Sep 2010
      • 1315

      All those pesty details are slowing me down, but i want to have them placed all before i can close both hull parts, doing this afterwards will push me back further more.





      Placing all the bars inside the floodholes took more time then estimated, still have to reinforce them with some bakingsoda.



      Added the same construction at the other torpedohatch, it will take some tinkering to get the travel right, but that can be done when i close this hull part for testing.



      Had to make a new bracket for guiding all rods to the front diveplane and torpedohatches, made some reinforcement on both sides against torque.



      This is where i stand now, all rods placed, now it's time to start tinkering to get the slidingaction to work.


      Manfred.
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      • Peter W
        Captain
        • May 2011
        • 509

        Love it Manfred, nice pics of some nice details. How do you use baking soda as a strengthener ? I assume you mix it with some type of glue ? I tend to use microballons with Devcon but would be interested in knowing a little about the applications of baking soda?

        All the best,

        Peter

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        • MFR1964
          Detail Nut of the First Order
          • Sep 2010
          • 1315

          Thanks Peter,

          It's just as you stated, mix it with some CA on the spot and it will begome hard, easy to sand, you mentioned micro balloons, i have them also in stock, worth to try if it will work the same.


          Manfred.
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          • trout
            Admiral
            • Jul 2011
            • 3555

            Nice mod Manfred! I have been wanting to do something like this on the Gato (and we will see on the Scamp). Every now and then if I do a fast reverse my rudder loses the Klik-on connection. Having a holder like this would allow it to reacquire the connection. The other option is build a modified connector.
            Nice grill work. Because this is styrene, use a styrene strip, get it soft with solvent and press it into the grill ends. It should form around the wire and bond to the hull. Looking at the picture you may need to get some of the CA removed to get a plastic to plastic cohesion.
            If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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            • MFR1964
              Detail Nut of the First Order
              • Sep 2010
              • 1315

              It turned out nice Tom, since i use a slide in/out SD there was no other solution, as you mentioned, using it in a standard boat it can solve your disconnecting problem.
              Did this trick before with the torpedo tubes of my 212, works like a charm, you never have to fiddle to get your rods into the right place.

              I'll go with the baking soda trick, using styrene strip will work, but also more visible from outside, call me a nitpicker, in the real live they welded those bars inside the vents, baking soda or micro balloons will be less visible.


              Manfred.
              Last edited by MFR1964; 09-29-2013, 03:06 PM.
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              • trout
                Admiral
                • Jul 2011
                • 3555

                Enjoying your build. I see your point. Call you nitpicker? No, you will always be Manfred the Maniac to me.
                If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                • MFR1964
                  Detail Nut of the First Order
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 1315

                  Hmmmmmm, Manfred the Maniac, i know, i know, i've earned that title due to my demonic experiments, which accourding to some people are madness, but for me new adventures.

                  Once this hurdle is taken, all pieces of my puzzle will come together, hope to get more results next week, have some problems to solve with my SD, it's not pressure proof, have to play around with the O rings, i had used some new rods, which offcourse are slightly different in diameter as the rods of David.
                  He uses 1,6 mm rods, i only have 1,5 mm rods, cladding some solder around will not be the solution for me, i want to compress the O rings slightly, just enough to get a tighter seal around the shafts, have to alter the O ring thingys for that, it can be done, but yet again a setback.
                  If it works well, it can be done with all future models, every setback has a advantage, they call it learningcurve, i would say, UP YOURS!, i want to see some water and now!

                  Manfred.
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                  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                    Moderator
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 12456

                    Enough, already! Get that sucker wet, Manfred!

                    M
                    Who is John Galt?

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                    • redboat219
                      Admiral
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 2837

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                      Glad to see I'm not the only one impatient to see this boat in the water.
                      Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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                      • MFR1964
                        Detail Nut of the First Order
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 1315

                        OK brads, enjoy the vid, one step closer to get this sucker into the water,



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                        • MFR1964
                          Detail Nut of the First Order
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1315

                          Last few days i adressed some attention to my pressure leak problem by using 1,5 mm brass rods, made some modifications to the bulkhead, and did a pressure test, to my relieve she survided the test, even the rear bulkhead popped loose due to the high pressure.
                          Used some soapy water to check all O-ring seals, not a bubble to see, still have to do my regular 1 hour underwatertest, but i have high hopes she will pass.



                          I decided to leave David's seals intact, and drilled a hole slightly smaller as the diameter of those tiny O rings, you can see the idea at this side of the bulkhead, this was by the way my first attempt, which failed, i needed to drill a even smaller hole.



                          Luckely you always have two sides on the bulkhead, so armed with the knowlegde of my first attempt, i drilled some even smaller holes, pressed in the O rings and sealed them with 2K epoxy glue, this stuff becomes rocksolid after 24 hours, using RTV can give the risk of pushing out those seals by pressure or friction.
                          Now this concept works i can convert my SD to metric if needed, this adventure is logged in my archives.

                          Manfred.
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                          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                            Moderator
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 12456

                            So, the smaller bore pushed the o-ring tighter around the pushrod? Neat!

                            M
                            Who is John Galt?

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                            • MFR1964
                              Detail Nut of the First Order
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 1315

                              Yep, that was my initial idea, it took some tinkering to get the right bore, in the past i made some adjustable seals, which you could tighten/release by turning, giving you the right pressure to seal your rods.
                              There is one catch with my trick, you've got to lubricate them as often as possible, due to the pressure/friction you've got the risk of more wear/tear on your O rings when they become dry, for me just a added item on my checklist before driving my boat.


                              Manfred.
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                              • MFR1964
                                Detail Nut of the First Order
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 1315

                                Yet again it's buzzing at the Skunkworks, i builded up the complete kit, closed the frontpart and got her a conningtower, tinkered the hatches and the front divingplanes.
                                It was time to do some real testing, at this point i got my answer if my effort at the vertical split would work like intended.



                                Now i can start making me the peroscope and snorkel, have some idea's to get this working, it still has to fit inside the narrow space of the SD.


                                Manfred.
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