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  • Das Boot
    Rear Admiral

    • Dec 2019
    • 1488

    #3166
    Well that’s new to me. Why do you use gloss at the beginning? I always found gloss to be a pain in the butt to sand. Also, if it’s still sticky after 48 hours, it becomes contaminated, and has to be removed. When I used to paint model cars, I found that putting it in a room with good air conditioning and low humidity did the trick. But fisheyes always showed up.
    Of the approximately 40,000 men who served on U-boats in WWII, it is estimated that around 28,000 to 30,000 lost their lives.

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    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
      Moderator

      • Aug 2008
      • 13404

      #3167
      Originally posted by Das Boot
      Well that’s new to me. Why do you use gloss at the beginning? I always found gloss to be a pain in the butt to sand. Also, if it’s still sticky after 48 hours, it becomes contaminated, and has to be removed. When I used to paint model cars, I found that putting it in a room with good air conditioning and low humidity did the trick. But fisheyes always showed up.
      I use 2K Acrylic Urethane auto paint -- most of those colors are gloss. After the colors go on I scratch the surface with #2400 grit sandpaper used wet. And proceed from there.

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      Who is John Galt?

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      • DrSchmidt
        Rear Admiral

        • Apr 2014
        • 1241

        #3168
        With respect to weathering, gloss surfaces are actually great, with one exception being filters. But when it comes to dry brushing and pin washes, gloss surfaces make it much more easy to get colors to where you need them and nowhere else, and that's because of the inferior wetting angles of fresh color on a glossy surfaces. The color does not run but stays where you applied it.

        Filters are different, because here you want a good wetting on the surface, you want the thinned color to spread by itself.

        So I usually start with a semi gloss finish, apply filters, then I apply a glossy clear coat, then pin washes and dry brushing, and finally a satin or matt finish.

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        • trout
          Admiral

          • Jul 2011
          • 3658

          #3169
          Putting on decals, I like a gloss coat. Even weathering there are times a gloss coat is beneficial, panel lines as an example. Gloss allows the paint to go into the grooves and clean up easier. On a flat finish, it will "stain" the finish and darken areas you may not want impacted.
          If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
            Moderator

            • Aug 2008
            • 13404

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            • He Who Shall Not Be Named
              Moderator

              • Aug 2008
              • 13404

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              Who is John Galt?

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              • TAGood827
                Lieutenant, Junior Grade

                • May 2023
                • 10

                #3172
                @HeWhoShallNotBeNamed,

                Dropping another Seaview question for you.

                During a late night research session, I came across an old post from you regarding a D&E Seaview Sub-Driver Kit available from Caswell Plating for the 1/128 Seaview model by Moebius. I went over to Caswell to see if it was still available but I didn't find it listed on their site. This post and the linked PDF Build Manual was from 2008 so I wasn't totally surprised.

                Is this kit still being manufactured, perhaps by someone else? Or has it been replaced by a new, better version?

                Just for reference.


                Thanks,


                Tim
                Last edited by TAGood827; 07-19-2025, 11:54 AM.

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                • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                  Moderator

                  • Aug 2008
                  • 13404

                  #3173
                  Originally posted by TAGood827
                  @HeWhoShallNotBeNamed,

                  Dropping another Seaview question for you.

                  During a late night research session, I came across an old post from you regarding a D&E Seaview Sub-Driver Kit available from Caswell Plating for the 1/128 Seaview model by Moebius. I went over to Caswell to see if it was still available but I didn't find it listed on their site. This post and the linked PDF Build Manual was from 2008 so I wasn't totally surprised.

                  Is this kit still being manufactured, perhaps by someone else? Or has it been replaced by a new, better version?

                  Just for reference.


                  Thanks,


                  Tim
                  Tim,

                  We worked as a vendor to the Caswell company initially. Eventually, Mr. Caswell sold his 'submarine' side of the business -- as well as our services -- roughly ten years ago to Mr. Martin of Nautilus Drydocks, who became the sole distributor of D&E Miniatures products, including our line of fittings kits.

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                  Eventually, after my retirement (soon after my partners death), I sent all tooling and most masters of the fittings kits (the SEAVIEW fittings kit among them) to Mr. Martin. What became of all that, I do not know.

                  You're on your own, pal.

                  David
                  Who is John Galt?

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                  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                    Moderator

                    • Aug 2008
                    • 13404

                    #3174
                    Originally posted by TAGood827
                    @HeWhoShallNotBeNamed,

                    Dropping another Seaview question for you.

                    During a late night research session, I came across an old post from you regarding a D&E Seaview Sub-Driver Kit available from Caswell Plating for the 1/128 Seaview model by Moebius. I went over to Caswell to see if it was still available but I didn't find it listed on their site. This post and the linked PDF Build Manual was from 2008 so I wasn't totally surprised.

                    Is this kit still being manufactured, perhaps by someone else? Or has it been replaced by a new, better version?

                    Just for reference.


                    Thanks,


                    Tim
                    Tim,

                    We worked as a vendor to the Caswell company initially. Eventually, Mr. Caswell sold his 'submarine' side of the business -- as well as our services -- roughly ten years ago to Mr. Martin of Nautilus Drydocks, who became the sole distributor of D&E Miniatures products, including our line of fittings kits.



                    Eventually, after my retirement (soon after my partners death), I sent all tooling and most masters of the fittings kits (the SEAVIEW fittings kit among them) to Mr. Martin. What became of all that, I do not know.

                    You're on your own, pal.

                    David
                    Who is John Galt?

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                    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                      Moderator

                      • Aug 2008
                      • 13404

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                      Who is John Galt?

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                      • TAGood827
                        Lieutenant, Junior Grade

                        • May 2023
                        • 10

                        #3176
                        Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named

                        Tim,

                        We worked as a vendor to the Caswell company initially. Eventually, Mr. Caswell sold his 'submarine' side of the business -- as well as our services -- roughly ten years ago to Mr. Martin of Nautilus Drydocks, who became the sole distributor of D&E Miniatures products, including our line of fittings kits.

                        Eventually, after my retirement (soon after my partners death), I sent all tooling and most masters of the fittings kits (the SEAVIEW fittings kit among them) to Mr. Martin. What became of all that, I do not know.

                        You're on your own, pal.

                        David
                        I've always felt I was always a little behind on things.


                        Thanks for the info!


                        Tim

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                        • redboat219
                          Admiral

                          • Dec 2008
                          • 3381

                          #3177
                          Bob was working on his own 2" wtc which was based off of the 2.5" R&R cylinder ( reversible pump with vented tank ballast system). Maybe he can provide you with one.
                          Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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                          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                            Moderator

                            • Aug 2008
                            • 13404

                            #3178
                            Originally posted by TAGood827

                            I've always felt I was always a little behind on things.


                            Thanks for the info!


                            Tim
                            Tim, it's time for you to discover the rewarding world of, scratch-building stuff.
                            Who is John Galt?

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                            • Das Boot
                              Rear Admiral

                              • Dec 2019
                              • 1488

                              #3179
                              David,
                              do you use Brylcreem in your hair? I remember as a youth, they called it “greasy kid stuff”. My dad, a retired jarhead, used to make me get a flat top at the barber, and that’s what they used to keep the front up.
                              Of the approximately 40,000 men who served on U-boats in WWII, it is estimated that around 28,000 to 30,000 lost their lives.

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                              • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                                Moderator

                                • Aug 2008
                                • 13404

                                #3180
                                Originally posted by Das Boot
                                David,
                                do you use Brylcreem in your hair? I remember as a youth, they called it “greasy kid stuff”. My dad, a retired jarhead, used to make me get a flat top at the barber, and that’s what they used to keep the front up.
                                Nope. Crisco. It's in the hair-care isle at Walmart.
                                Who is John Galt?

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