today's work

[Das Boot]

It's not the destination so much as it's all about the getting there.

Ralph Waldo Emerson?

[JHapprich]

It's not the destination so much as it's all about the getting there.

Absolutely!

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

I’ve never seen anyone perfect parts of the boat that will never be seen by anyone as you do. For some reason I’m the same way. I take pride in my limber holes being correct and square. It’s kind of weird, isn’t it? I would even say anal. I’m the same way with ham radio equipment. If I see a used piece of gear, and it’s got one smudge on it, I won’t buy it.

It's not the destination so much as it's all about the getting there.

[Das Boot]

I’ve never seen anyone perfect parts of the boat that will never be seen by anyone as you do. For some reason I’m the same way. I take pride in my limber holes being correct and square. It’s kind of weird, isn’t it? I would even say anal. I’m the same way with ham radio equipment. If I see a used piece of gear, and it’s got one smudge on it, I won’t buy it.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

[QUOTE=TAGood827;n188961]

So after watching the videos you posted, I have my first questions.

During the video of the 1/128 Moebius kit in the big pool, I believe you said you thought you should add some bow planes to the front of the Seaview as she tends to dive with that big wing in the front.

Did you do that? If so, was it a cut of the wing and how wide did you go?

That's something I will have to plan for in modifying my Ken Lane files.

Also, I think it might be best if I create a new topic based solely on the Ken Lane Seaview so as not to disrupt this forum.


Tim

I've assembled four of these wonderful Mobius kits, but only one was outfitted with practical 'bow planes'. The other three -- assemble and profiting from lessons learned on the first, bow plane equipped unit --only required practical INDEPENDANT (and that is an important distinction) stern planes and fairwater planes. The practical bow planes turned out to be an ugly and redundant means of controlling the submarines pitch angle. Let let the following illustrations make my argument:

That first SEAVIEW was totally uncontrollable in pitch once achieved submerged trim; any advance of the throttle and the shovel-bow pushed the nose down and control could not be regained without going all-back-MF'r. I retrofitted the bow planes, and only with that rather ugly arrangement (see below picture) could I control the boats pitch angle. The stern planes and bow planes were mechanically linked together and worked in unison to rotate the boat about the pitch axis




Ellie and I produced an entire range of fittings kits for this subject. Here you see the bow planes, control horns and a portion of the stern plane-bow plane push rods.



Though the retro-fit bow planes continued the compound curved lives at the tips of the 'manta fins', once they assumed any angle the entire aesthetics of the submarine were ruined!



And here is the linkage that ran from the bow planes to the stern planes. As to the dimensions of the bow planes -- those were driven by the engraved outline represented on the kit parts by deeply engraved lines. Just follow the lines and you have the shape of the bow planes.



The stern portion of the bow-stern plane linkage.



Through extensive testing, evaluation, and experiment I came up with the fix: pre-setting the stern planes at a slight 'rise' angle and incorporation of a fixed stator van in the bottom of the nozzle to also produce a pitch-up moment whenever the pump-jets were pushing water. These two steps eliminated the need for the bow planes.







I have no problem sharing my thread -- the objective is to interact with you guy's, not to spout off without challenge from on high.

David
The Horrible

[ffr2608]

My favorite photo is Dave in the red shirt. Holding the Seaview like he’s slapping a bass guitar.

[TAGood827]

[QUOTE=He Who Shall Not Be Named;n188920]

Standing by.

David

So after watching the videos you posted, I have my first questions.

During the video of the 1/128 Moebius kit in the big pool, I believe you said you thought you should add some bow planes to the front of the Seaview as she tends to dive with that big wing in the front.

Did you do that? If so, was it a cut of the wing and how wide did you go?

That's something I will have to plan for in modifying my Ken Lane files.

Also, I think it might be best if I create a new topic based solely on the Ken Lane Seaview so as not to disrupt this forum.


Tim

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

after retiring Superman takes up building RC model submarines

I can just see fat-ass trying to tear out of a phone-booth while shedding shirt, tie, and glasses.

[redboat219]

after retiring Superman takes up building RC model submarines

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

[QUOTE=TAGood827;n188919]

Fair enough.

I've assembled my share of SEAVIEW kits and got them working. From my vast array of experiences perhaps I can help you.

What, specifically, may I assist you with?



Thank you very much for sharing that vast array of reference photos and videos!

At this time, I was more concerned with any issues printing the 3D model files of the 8 Window variant designed by Ken Lane and as supplied by Nautilus Drydocks. I was also looking to see if someone working this specific model had thoughts about operational internals for a build of this size.

This is being constructed for my boss who is a big VTTBOTS fan. I only have 5 sections of the lower hull printed so far. Preliminary fit up looks good. We are doing the full 1:72 size version.

We will certainly be referencing the material you have shared and when a more specific question arises, I will be certain to contact you.

Thanks again!

Standing by.

David

[TAGood827]

[QUOTE=He Who Shall Not Be Named;n188886]

Fair enough.

I've assembled my share of SEAVIEW kits and got them working. From my vast array of experiences perhaps I can help you.

What, specifically, may I assist you with?



Thank you very much for sharing that vast array of reference photos and videos!

At this time, I was more concerned with any issues printing the 3D model files of the 8 Window variant designed by Ken Lane and as supplied by Nautilus Drydocks. I was also looking to see if someone working this specific model had thoughts about operational internals for a build of this size.

This is being constructed for my boss who is a big VTTBOTS fan. I only have 5 sections of the lower hull printed so far. Preliminary fit up looks good. We are doing the full 1:72 size version.

We will certainly be referencing the material you have shared and when a more specific question arises, I will be certain to contact you.

Thanks again!

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

The secret’s out — no glue, just sheer willpower and a death stare strong enough to weld plastic.

Grtz,Bart

All those pilgrimages to Tibet eventually paid off.

[Das Boot]

Talk about eyeballing the real estate.

[bwi 971]

The secret’s out — no glue, just sheer willpower and a death stare strong enough to weld plastic.

Grtz,Bart