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  • JHapprich
    Captain

    • Oct 2017
    • 881

    #3226
    Beautiful! 2hrs of masking, 15 min of airbrushing?

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    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
      Moderator

      • Aug 2008
      • 13403

      #3227
      Originally posted by JHapprich
      Beautiful! 2hrs of masking, 15 min of airbrushing?
      LOL. You're pretty close to the right ratio of preparation/painting.
      Who is John Galt?

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      • DrSchmidt
        Rear Admiral

        • Apr 2014
        • 1238

        #3228
        A with any decent paint job, be it cars, models, even the fence around your yard, it's always 90% preparation vs. 10% applying paint.

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        • JHapprich
          Captain

          • Oct 2017
          • 881

          #3229
          Yup!

          Btw, why did the soviets regularly paint frames/hatch rims etc white? Makes an interesting look, but from the perspective of camouflage, seems odd...

          David, old mariner, give us a clue!

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          • Albacore 569
            Captain

            • Sep 2020
            • 615

            #3230
            Originally posted by JHapprich
            Beautiful! 2hrs of masking, 15 min of airbrushing?
            You just discovered this?...LOL

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            • JHapprich
              Captain

              • Oct 2017
              • 881

              #3231
              Nope, well-earned self-experience

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              • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                Moderator

                • Aug 2008
                • 13403

                #3232
                Originally posted by JHapprich
                Yup!

                Btw, why did the soviets regularly paint frames/hatch rims etc white? Makes an interesting look, but from the perspective of camouflage, seems odd...

                David, old mariner, give us a clue!
                Those markings are for the benefit of salvage Diver's and rescue vehicles.

                Unlike most other navies, the Russki's built lifting and towing gear into the superstructure of their combatants.

                The white outlined deck hatches were there to assist rescue/salvage Divers to locate the recessed compartment salvage air fittings, lifting collars, induction gagging wrenches and spindles, and a bottle of celebratory vodka and glassware should everything have a happy ending.

                The big circular ring around the engineering access-escape hatch was a target for DSRV type personnel transfer vehicles, and denoted the heavily reenforced seat upon which the vehicle would sit and be affixed to by hydrostatic force when joined with the destressed submarine.

                However...

                ...In real life you just contract the Dutch and they chop up your boat and send it back to you as a neatly packaged kit.

                Or just wait for our CIA to come up with something clever.

                Bottom line: Closed caskets for everyone, and a stipend for the widows. (in the voice of the soup Nazi) 'No vodka for you, Comrade!'











                Last edited by He Who Shall Not Be Named; 08-26-2025, 03:04 PM.
                Who is John Galt?

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                • JHapprich
                  Captain

                  • Oct 2017
                  • 881

                  #3233
                  Ahh
                  of course, thank you. I lacked the diver's perspective.

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                  • Das Boot
                    Rear Admiral

                    • Dec 2019
                    • 1488

                    #3234
                    Soviet subs have the white markings because they needed a place for rescue. It’s sort of like Mercedes-Benz. Do you know why their seats are so comfortable? So you have a nice place to sit waiting for a tow truck
                    Of the approximately 40,000 men who served on U-boats in WWII, it is estimated that around 28,000 to 30,000 lost their lives.

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                    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                      Moderator

                      • Aug 2008
                      • 13403

                      #3235
                      Originally posted by Das Boot
                      Soviet subs have the white markings because they needed a place for rescue. It’s sort of like Mercedes-Benz. Do you know why their seats are so comfortable? So you have a nice place to sit waiting for a tow truck
                      LOL. The Ying and Yang of engineering.
                      Who is John Galt?

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                      • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                        Moderator

                        • Aug 2008
                        • 13403

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                        Who is John Galt?

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                        • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                          Moderator

                          • Aug 2008
                          • 13403

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                          Who is John Galt?

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                          • DrSchmidt
                            Rear Admiral

                            • Apr 2014
                            • 1238

                            #3238
                            Interesting, that you apply the markings after weathering.I always argued with myself whether it's better to apply markings on a clean model and to include them in the weathering process, wihich belnds them with the overall look but makes them less visible, or to apply them before the final clear coat, Your thoughts?
                            Last edited by DrSchmidt; 09-01-2025, 02:33 AM.

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                            • Ken_NJ
                              Captain

                              • Sep 2014
                              • 974

                              #3239
                              Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named


                              Using capillary action you pick up the paint. After dipping you wipe excess off, then apply it. How is it not creating a blob as you apply it. This method of course requires much practice just like air brushing.

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                              • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                                Moderator

                                • Aug 2008
                                • 13403

                                #3240
                                Originally posted by DrSchmidt
                                Interesting, that you apply the markings after weathering.I always argued with myself whether it's better to apply markings on a clean model and to include them in the weathering process, wihich belnds them with the overall look but makes them less visible, or to apply them before the final clear coat, Your thoughts?
                                Weathering is chaos. Markings are studied, understood, precise operations. Get the chaos out of the way first, protect it with a clear coat, and only then apply the markings. Touch up the markings to match surrounding chaos, then another, well flattened clear coat to blend everything together.

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