Japanese Class A 1/16

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Hah!!!, (thundering voice) IT'S ALIVE!!!!,IT'S ALIVE!!!!

It has become a MD (Manfredised Driver) instead of a SD, as for annoying you, i just like to poke you with a sharp stick to keep you sharp.

Greetings from the Great Foreigner Metric Empire.

Manfred.

This Type-A of yours is perhaps the most ambitious r/c submarine project I've seen to date. It's most instructive to observe your solutions to big-league problems. A real beauty, Manfred.

David

[MFR1964]

Hah!!!, (thundering voice) IT'S ALIVE!!!!,IT'S ALIVE!!!!

It has become a MD (Manfredised Driver) instead of a SD, as for annoying you, i just like to poke you with a sharp stick to keep you sharp.

Greetings from the Great Foreigner Metric Empire.

Manfred.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Firstly, happy newyear to all you bubbleheads.

As promised i'll post some pics from the progress i made these days, i allways like to molest David's SD's to my own standards.



The beginning with the motorpart



Placed the ESC and a Sombra SL8, re-routed the airlines by drilling some holes through the aluminum, this way the transistion is better, at least to my taste.



De-sparked the e-motor with the usual condensators, i never take the gamble if that motor is allready de-sparked factory stile without knowing.



Drilled the holes for my steering-rods which will control the torpedo tubes,and placed the feedthroughs, a old style powerswitch which i can access easely by taking of the " magnetic" bowpart.



The batterypack made from Eneloop cells, 7,2 Volt 2,5 Ah, i chose the heavy cells above a lipo because i want to have some weigth under the waterline, better heavy cells then useless lead.
The fat leads are for the power of the SD itself, the slim one's for charching the pack while it stays inside the SD.



So that was the boring part, for now i'm playing around with building up the plumbing Type XXIII style, me like tighty SD outside.


Manfred.

God damn, Manfred!! … why don't you get it over with, bend that poor SubDriver over a barrel, and have you way with it!????

I send you a perfectly good WTC and you strap it to the lab table, cut it up, and turn the poor thing into Frenkinstein's half-brother!

Damned foreigners -- why do I bother!????

(by the way, nice work on display here, as usual, Manfred).

David

[MFR1964]

Firstly, happy newyear to all you bubbleheads.

As promised i'll post some pics from the progress i made these days, i allways like to molest David's SD's to my own standards.



The beginning with the motorpart



Placed the ESC and a Sombra SL8, re-routed the airlines by drilling some holes through the aluminum, this way the transistion is better, at least to my taste.



De-sparked the e-motor with the usual condensators, i never take the gamble if that motor is allready de-sparked factory stile without knowing.



Drilled the holes for my steering-rods which will control the torpedo tubes,and placed the feedthroughs, a old style powerswitch which i can access easely by taking of the " magnetic" bowpart.



The batterypack made from Eneloop cells, 7,2 Volt 2,5 Ah, i chose the heavy cells above a lipo because i want to have some weigth under the waterline, better heavy cells then useless lead.
The fat leads are for the power of the SD itself, the slim one's for charching the pack while it stays inside the SD.



So that was the boring part, for now i'm playing around with building up the plumbing Type XXIII style, me like tighty SD outside.


Manfred.

[MFR1964]

For now most shops are closed during these holidays, within a few weeks everybody is up and running, that will be the moment i will hunt the stuff down, i do own a small torch on butane gas, only have to get me some real silversolder and some flux.

To kill the time i've started with building up the SD, the servo's are ordered, pictures will follow soon.

Manfred.

[Bob Gato]

Hey Manfred.. I don't know if you have a welding supply shop near you but that would be the best place to buy silver solder and the flux that would be required for it... And a regular propane or MAPP gas torch is sufficient to do small jobs..

[MFR1964]

Thanks for the explanation about the socalled silversolder, next time i will pay attention if it's the reall stuff, got me only 10 inch of that wrong stuff, i'll contact the local jewellers shop to get me the real stuff.

Manfred.

[Bob Gato]

"During a few tests the propblades started to bend towards the torpedo-body, you would expect the other way, the other prop simply shattered, i must remark, all blades are silver soldered for strenght, what the hell is going on!!!"

Sorry to see such nice work come apart by a marketing misunderstanding-That wasn't silver solder (noted by the dull gray color seen in the pictures) as is commonly thought of as silver solder- It was probably plumbing solder with silver in it (as found in Home Depot) that usually melts at around 450*F. Its just a little bit stronger then lead solder-True silver solder (now branded and referred to as silver brazing) melts at between 800*F and 1100*F. It is actually stronger than the brass! and will also join steel.
As for the prop blades-bear in mind that the prop is trying to pull the torp forward...the forces on the prop tips are fwd and ultimately in an arc down to the torpedo body-the heat of soldering annealed the brass and probably made it very soft.Example-in airplane accident investigations ...if the prop blades are bent back when the aircraft contacted the ground, it means that the power was reduced or none- but if they were bent forward it means the ground was contacted with power on.

[MFR1964]

Props are refurbished, so ready for some testing, and now another issue, i don't want to run my boat with the torpedo's always inside, leaving the tubes open will give problems with scooping up all the water during driving.



So i made this, a set of plugs to place inside the tubes when i don't run the torps.



They fitt tightly inside the tubes, also added some slots for securing the plugs.



This is inside the plug, by turning the nut at the front you can lock them inside the slots of my tube.



Next stage in the evolution, stuffed as many holes i can get inside the plug, the goal is to get no airbubbles inside, that piece of styrodure at the end is used to get me a neutral bouyency, this way i can trim the boat with plugs inside the tubes.
Why?, most of the time you will drive your boat without the torps, when you use them it will create some positive bouyency, i want to have my boat level after firing the torps and not drive her as some drunken idiot with the nose down, due to loss of bouyency.



So most of the time i will drive her like this, those targets have to take the gamble if she is plugged or armed.

Manfred.

[MFR1964]

As promised the Vid,

https://youtu.be/GVvj7U1DEBk

After this test i decided to molest the tubes even more,



To solve the issue of pressure even more, i decided to drill some holes into the sides of the tubes.



As you can see i now have some inlets to get me a better free waterflow when starting up the torps.

For now i'll dig up the jigg for reparing the old brass props and do some more testing with those props to see if my modifications work.


Manfred.

[MFR1964]

As for the Master thing, i screwed up my torps, that is, props only, the rest is fine.



During a few tests the propblades started to bend towards the torpedo-body, you would expect the other way, the other prop simply shattered, i must remark, all blades are silver soldered for strenght, what the hell is going on!!!



I still want to do some tests this weekend, so i ended up with a slight modification, three blades nylon props, also a bit smaller diameter.



I coocked my brains about the propellor issue, my theory is that starting up those high torque torps sends a pressure wave agains the closed back of my tubes, this would explain the prop blades being bent towards the torpedo-body, the light went on when i was thinking about the tubes of my type XXIII, same method of launching but no shattered blades, the picture shows my solution, drilled as many holes i could into the backplate of my tubes.
Now the pressure wave has a way to get away instead of deflecting, pretty much the same arrangement as on my type XXIII, tomorrow i'll shoot some vids about launching the torps, stay tuned.


Manfred.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Yeah i know, me like complexity, frankly said, i have no idea how they kept their torps inside the tubes, there was no room to use those lockingballs as used on your gastorps, so i ended up with the hook thingy, on the dry it works well.
This week i'll do some testing with launching from the tubes and give the mechanism a rub down to iron out the defects.

Manfred.

I love watching the Master at work (don't tell anyone I just said that!).

David
In Training

[MFR1964]

Yeah i know, me like complexity, frankly said, i have no idea how they kept their torps inside the tubes, there was no room to use those lockingballs as used on your gastorps, so i ended up with the hook thingy, on the dry it works well.
This week i'll do some testing with launching from the tubes and give the mechanism a rub down to iron out the defects.

Manfred.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Oh, man! You've made Rube Goldberg proud, sir!

David

[MFR1964]

It took some weeks to complete the launcher and the mechanics, pictures.



First i had to adapt the torpedo's, so i could use the lockingmechanisms, ended up with some tubes underneath the torpedo's.



Made the hooks which will lock into those tubes.



The hooks will fitt inside the tubes like this.



Took a spare rear-end and made a green led inside, this is done for adjusting the magnets so you will not burn up your motors.



Peeking through the slits i can see when the torpedo is activated by the magnet.



Had to change the magnets because the old configuration was too weak to get me a trusty launch.



Had to find out at which place the locking device had to be placed, an glued them for the time being with some CA.



Those pieces of lead ensure a firm lock inside the topedo's by gravity.

Last step was to make some wires attached to both the controle rods and the lockingdevices.

Made a vid to show how the whole concept works, enjoy

https://youtu.be/Xon6RBoR3u0

Next week i will have some testing inside the tub, which also will be documented, stay tuned


Manfred.