Bronco Type XXIII in 1/35th scale

[greenman407]

Ok Dudes, heres a few more pictures that I dug out this morning. The first picture also shows a yellow stripe, one of those rare color photos taken during the war that has not been digitally enhanced.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Good stuff, Mark! Bout time I finished painting this sucker and got moving on to the next project. Thanks as always for the great pictures.

David

[greenman407]

Thanks Dave, beautiful stuff on the 23.................I want it

[greenman407]

Since I dont want a "Me Too" boat, im liable to put the stripes on mine, once we figure out what they are.

[greenman407]

Just to give credit where credit is due, the fourth picture down in the last series of pictures was taken, I believe, in Canada, among the likes of Rick Teskey and Kevin Mcleod, to name a few of the Offenders. Sorry but I dont know the name of the photographer or the Owner of the boat. Now that I think about it, I think the Photographer and owner of the waterfront property on the lakes name is Cliff.BLUSHER

[greenman407]

Hey, I just checked stock at Caswells on the Bronco Type 23. There not listed. What gives? WHERE CAN I GET MINE???!!!

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Hey, I just checked stock at Caswells on the Bronco Type 23. There not listed. What gives? WHERE CAN I GET MINE???!!!

Right here, pal:

http://www.sub-driver.com/models/submarine-models/the-german-wwii-type-xxiii-submarine.html

[goshawk823]

******. someone buy my Type VII. I want this SD and fittings kit!

Boat looks awesome David.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

******. someone buy my Type VII. I want this SD and fittings kit!

Boat looks awesome David.

Someone buy the guy's boat, damit!

[celticwarrior]

Is there a possibility to buy only the fittings kit? :wink:

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Is there a possibility to buy only the fittings kit? :wink:

... which, reminds me: I better get some ad copy off to Mike so he can list this thing in the catalog.



And, yes, the fittings kit is a stand-alone product.

David

[goshawk823]

... which, reminds me: I better get some ad copy off to Mike so he can list this thing in the catalog.

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And, yes, the fittings kit is a stand-alone product.

David

I want. How much?

[trout]

I read the comments about the dark stripe, up the front of the 23 tower, in that photo I posted. Could be dark gray, black or red.. No way to really prove one over the other. Plus how do you tell apart, for sure, post-war colorized photos versus actual war-time color photos. As far as to hide scuff marks from climbing up and down the ladder rungs, doesn't seem like it would be the specific reason for it to be there. Most photos of boats with training bands don't have the dark stripe. Front boats on active war patrol would not have any bands or stripes on the tower, or markings of any type (except for the boat emblem if it had one).

Thanks for the unwitting challenge and quest to see what I could find.
I have a lot of pictures of the stripe under the rungs. And I read somewhere that it was for smudges from the boots, but since I cannot find my reference on that to quote from, I wanted to present my thoughts. I think we can establish that different subs had the dark stripe under the rungs, not just the Type XXIII. So, the stripe was in use and could be considered a practice during WWII - for whatever reason. But it was also still in use post war - the first photo is from unknown date (but it is after being raised) and is of the Hecht or Hai. We could assume they used conservative colors (grey or black) and all photos I have seen were a grey or black paint used. Clearly, on this one, you can see that a stripe is there.

Just as easily, I can show photos of the sub with out this stripe too. So why the difference? I don't know for sure. Could be where it is being built or in dry dock.
Here are different subs from WWII that had the dark rectangle patch under the rungs.



Here is a unique one - it shows a small rectangle above the rung (see inset)

And here is a another photo of a modern Type XXIII (Hecht after modification 1961) with a protection showing the boot markings, but also protecting the paint underneath.

This would indicate that there was concern for protecting the finish from boot scuffs.
There are color photos of u-boats and these show either black or a grey (faded black probably).


So, if we accept the premise that it was a general practice to put grey or black stripes under the rungs, then the probability of it being red is unlikely.
As another interesting point not all XXIII had the rungs in front. Some had cut outs on the sides. Here are the photos of Type XXIIIs that I have. Maybe they can help in detailing out the model.

[trout]

Oh, I missed this one of U-2321 (one of the 6 that actually went on patrol) from 1944. The first two photos from the group of 26 on the last post show u-2321 supporting a yellow? horizontal stripe.

[greenman407]

Nice! Great research.