Bronco Type XXIII in 1/35th scale

[celticwarrior]

Where can one buy this fittings kit? I haven't seen it for sale as of yet.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Gotta get off my ass and send Mike the ad copy so he can present it in the catalog. Thanks for the nudge.

David

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Nice! Great research.

Yes, Tom. Good stuff. Thanks.

David

[Warpatroller]

But it was also still in use post war - the first photo is from unknown date (but it is after being raised) and is of the Hecht or Hai. We could assume they used conservative colors (grey or black) and all photos I have seen were a grey or black paint used. Clearly, on this one, you can see that a stripe is there.
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That is the Hecht, S171 probably from around 1961.

And here is a another photo of a modern Type XXIII (Hecht after modification 1961) with a protection showing the boot markings, but also protecting the paint underneath.
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This photo of the Hecht is from around 1965. They have some sort of protective strip hanging down the front, light in color, which shows the scuff marks instead of hiding them..

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U2321 here, again, probably is sporting a yellow band. The UAK mark, above it, is stated in "U-Boot Im Focus", as having been either white, black or red (which includes those painted on XXI boats). In that photo, there is no way the Mark could be red or black, so that leaves white. The band beneath it is clearly a darker shade than the UAK mark, so most likely the band is yellow.

These are my conclusions from all of this in regards to painting a war time XXIII (your mileage may vary):

1) UAK markings should be white. So far, in all the photos I have seen of XXIII boats sporting a UAK mark, the mark is far too light to be either black or red (black and red may have been used on XXI boats, or a photo of such has not been seen of a XXIII, at least by me). Maybe it's time to dig up some XXI photos..

2) Training bands on tower sides should be yellow, not white. A desaturated yellow, according to the Type II and VII color photos we have seen of these bands.

3) If you choose to add a dark stripe under the ladder rungs on front, it should be black or dark gray (red if you want to be a rebel).

4) If you paint your training bands white, you will be zapped by a lightning bolt from HWSNBN! In addition, you'll be bringing bad luck upon your boat and increase the chances of it sinking or having a catastrophe at sea. In general though, I expect most Bronco XXIII models to end up with white training bands applied to them, except perhaps by the few and the brave who tread the waters of this Sub-Driver forum..

[greenman407]

This may or may not have a bearing on this discussion. I just noted today a photograph of U45. Behind the ladder rungs looks like a loose fitting sheet of something, I dont know.

[ffr2608]

Dave,

Based on this image, I think my S class waterline is pretty close...I do agree a bit more hard edge defined waterline would feel more correct.


D

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Of holding fixtures; assembly; hand vices; sanding tools; sanding machines; machine tool specialization; centering foundations; jigs; and shop notes and product manufacturing specifications.

Some of the shop gobble-de-gook involved in fittings kit production.



M

[celticwarrior]

Big Dave, you are the Master and I also see, there's no rest for the wicked!! :wink: ;-P

[Kazzer]

Big Dave, you are the Master and I also see, there's no rest for the wicked!! :wink: ;-P

Big Dave????? Wrong Dave!!!!!

I think not. HWSNBN has been on a diet for ages, not like Dave Welch who is BIG!

[MFR1964]

O Boy, it seems there will be a fleet of XXIII's active in the future !!!, nice jiggs David, i really have to learn to pour some resin if i want to catch up in the future.


Manfred.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Another grisly look within the sausage factory:

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

It may be a generic boat, but it is not a generic model! This is the prototype model for the Bronco XXIII Sub-Driver Fittings Kit. This model already has historical significance in the RC model submarine world. It was used to produce the world’s first RC Fittings Kit designed for a 1:35, injection-molded, non-midget submarine model. The first 1:35 injection kit to use the SAS Sub-Driver. The first 1:35 Fittings Kit to include crew figures. Feel free to correct me if I am mistaken about any of this..

And my personal favorite first, the first Fittings Kit, period, to have propeller design advisement (implemented) from a person with only “minutes” of practical RC submarine experience (building or assembling and operating of such models). In contrast, his years of reading on the subject and years of unassembled RC sub kit ownership has schooled him well. He even had been watching Manfred’s videos, on Youtube, over the past four years. Not realizing, until a few days ago, that “Knikebein”, on Youtube, is indeed, actually Manfred..

With minimal available tools, little practical experience, no Evercoat product application experience whatsoever, and no real workshop of any kind to attempt to do work in, I shall somehow get that sleek Elektroboot in the water and operating in a practical manner. I equate it to the German situation, late in the war, with the Allied bombing raids attempting to severely disrupt construction, combined with a lack of available workers with skilled labor experience (there are no Davids, or anyone who even comes close, out here in the desert).

I await Mike’s posting of the availability of the final production copies of said Fittings Kit. And, of course, photos of what the average man, with functional RC U-Boat dreams, will receive in exchange for his hard earned money..

I got the first ten fittings kits off to the Caswell people. I set one aside for you. So, e-mail me your address and I'll send it along. You were a very big help with this project, Steve. For services rendered.

David

[satlite440]

looks awsome...

[goshawk823]

great stuff David. how much will it cost for the fittings kit?

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

great stuff David. how much will it cost for the fittings kit?

http://www.sub-driver.com/fittings-kits/bronco-type-xxiii-fittings-kit-1-35.html

$120.00

M