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Yes, HWSNBN is still slogging away in The Cave. I'm waiting on the photos for the Fittings Kit before I load the info to the web site.
I presume you mean the 1.25" Sub-driver? That's been available in two forms for some time.
The single/dual prop unit is a static diver
And the dynamic diver is
Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!Comment
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HWSNBN has already completed the masters for the XXIII fittings kit, including the almighty propeller?? He indicated, only three days ago, that he did not even have a kit in hand yet.. I know he works miracles, but I didn't know he was that fast!! He needs a kit in his hands to size things up properly!
Based on info on the real boat's prop, that I obtained a few years ago, I came up with 56mm for the prop at 1:32 scale. Which would be 51mm at 1:35. My 32nd P. boat's stock prop is 44mm (which definitely looks too small in diameter when mounted on the tail). 32P originally outfitted the boat with an even smaller 40mm prop, being directly driven by a 40mm diameter 12VDC Pittman motor. They subsequently enlarged the prop to 44mm. They probably were trying to size the prop for the direct drive Pittman motor, instead of making it to scale with the real boat's prop. It has the helical twist, but otherwise does not look like the real deal.
I'd like to know what David has decided on for his replacement prop diameter.. When he is done, I expect to see the best model XXIII propeller constructed by man (or God)! One that captures the look of the photos I posted!"Wir kommen ihnen unbekannt."Comment
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It will. And thank you for your effort digging out the information for us.Who is John Galt?Comment
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I'll have a kit in hand about this time next week. Then, all things will be revealed. I have not forgotten your Type-214, Jim. The 'new' static type SD is being checked out in it. Bout time I caught up on this and other projects I've promised guys.Who is John Galt?Comment
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Thanks for the update. The 1:35 Type XXIII is an incredibly fortunate development for this hobby. It's really something extraordinary. Bronco picked an interesting subject. The size of the model seems to be at a real sweet spot. Big, but not too big. Polystyrene is easy to work with for novices. Kit pricing is great, especially considering what you're getting. Others must agree...look how quickly this thread built up. No pressure, but there are clearly plenty of folks interested in bringing this kit to life. I think this one is going to be big.
Nice to hear that you are continuing to develop the smaller SDs. Hopefully the -214 is a good test bed. Any photos of sea trials? I'm still convinced that a small sub has plenty of merits...some times lack of size matters. And kit supply for the 1:144 boats seems pretty stable as compared to the 1:72 market. So, hopefully, this effort will be of some worth.
BTW, when Revell initially killed the 1:72 Type VIIs, I thought the day of big sub kits from the industry's major players was about to pass. But we have one of the Revell Type VIIs back (any stock, though?), a promised Revell 1:72 Type IX, the Moebius 1:72 Skipjack, and now the 1:35 Bronco. Maybe things are not so bad, after all.Last edited by Outrider; 03-03-2013, 09:04 PM.Comment
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In an earlier post I said, "I came up with 56mm for the prop at 1:32 scale. Which would be 51mm at 1:35." I still have been unable to locate the diameter of the full-size boat's propeller. I had it a few years ago but seemed to have misplaced or lost the info. I have a measurement of 23mm for the 1:72 scale Special Navy XXIII prop. I think Special Navy did a better job on the prop than Bronco. Based on the SN prop, it would be 47.3mm at 1:35. So somewhere in the range of 47mm to 51mm. With that info, plus the photos I posted, you should be able to come up with a nice prop that blows the Bronco piece out of the water. I am confident you will even trump the OTW XXIII prop as well!
One of my favorite boats, with a prop and fittings being made for it by one of the best in the business.. This is exciting!!"Wir kommen ihnen unbekannt."Comment
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Damned right!Who is John Galt?Comment
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Today's work on the Bronco 1/35 Type-23 fittings kit masters:
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Nice! There is the master for the prop hub! I see it looks like you are going with the 51mm prop diameter. How much clearance does that allow between the tip of the blades and the upper and lower tail? I won't have my kits until Tuesday, so I don't know the measurement between the upper and lower tail on the model. I assume the 51mm looked better when compared to the photos than the 47mm? I thought the 51mm might be a bit too large, but perhaps not..
Could you explain what those isosceles triangle shapes are for?"Wir kommen ihnen unbekannt."Comment
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So access to the SD will be via Z-cut through the hull.
Can't wait to see your fittings for working the rudder post.Make it simple, make strong, make it work!Comment
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I'll refine the diameter later -- note the concentric circles on the profile drawing of the projected blades, the outer one represents your 51mm, the inner one the 47mm version. I'll build a disc place-holder, fit it to the hull then eye-ball the fit back there for both 51 and 47mm.
This morning I'll carve out the blade master, do a trial fit to the hub and again check clearance to the rudder posts.
Each of those triangles describes the angle of the blade at a specific radius point -- a means of graphically determining the radius angles along the span of a constant-pitch type propeller. The chart also identifies the projected width of the blade at each selected radius point --information needed to plot developed shape of the blade.Who is John Galt?Comment
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