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  • Kazzer
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    • Aug 2008
    • 2848

    Originally posted by toppack
    I was trying to decide what to use to fabricate the voice-tube that goes from bridge to 4" gun, that was used on many T-class subs. But when looking at pic of Tally-ho I see that she did Not have one. It probably got shot off or knocked off during their many encounters with the enemy.
    A lot of S class boats did not have that voice tube by design. According to Stephen Jenner (1st Lt HMS Sibyl) these sorts of things were left entirely to the individual captain who would request modifications to his boat after each patrol. He could even choose the paint job, if they had that color in the depot ship.

    I think that by the end of the war, these guys were also beginning to realise that all this crap strapped to the hull caused a lot of noise in the water and made them easily detectable, and so started to shed all sorts of things, hence the advent of The Slippery T class.
    Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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    • toppack
      Rear Admiral
      • Nov 2008
      • 1124

      Very Interesting.

      I think that by the end of the war, these guys were also beginning to realise that all this crap strapped to the hull caused a lot of noise in the water and made them easily detectable, and so started to shed all sorts of things, hence the advent of The Slippery T class.
      Yes, that's true, but when making them 'slippery' they made them Less Interesting in appearance. They then started to be the Boring dildo lookin' tubes that modern subs are. :D LOL :D

      Should I go put my Helmit on, after that statement? :D
      Last edited by toppack; 03-15-2009, 01:24 PM.
      Rick L.
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      • Kazzer
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        • Aug 2008
        • 2848

        Originally posted by toppack
        Very Interesting.


        Yes, that's true, but when making them 'slippery' they made them Less Interesting in appearance. They then started to be the Boring dildo lookin' tubes that modern subs are.

        I agree, I much prefer the WWII originals - they look 'dangerous' and fearsome.
        Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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        • toppack
          Rear Admiral
          • Nov 2008
          • 1124

          There's another detail I can't decide about? :confused:
          Should I install periscopes in Up position or Down?
          I noticed most models have them Up but with actual WW2 subs they were not up much of the time, only for short periods.
          I plan to route the Snort-intake tube and the camera-Xmitter antenna up thru them but there should enough height with just the base-tubes, I think?
          But will it look complete and finished with them down?
          :confused: :confused:
          Rick L.
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          • toppack
            Rear Admiral
            • Nov 2008
            • 1124

            VanguardUK,
            I just noticed that you did not have periscopes up on your Tally-ho and it looked Great that way, so I think I'll leave them off also. :)
            Hey, I can go under lower Bridges that way. :D LOL :D
            As long as it clears the Jolly-Roger Flag-pole, that is! ;)
            See pic:
            (2nd pic is of another T-class model with them Up)
            (3rd is Tally-ho, just back from patrol)
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            Last edited by toppack; 03-21-2009, 09:24 PM.
            Rick L.
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            • toppack
              Rear Admiral
              • Nov 2008
              • 1124

              No opinions on periscopes Up or Down huh?
              Okay, I'll just do it MY way, but I don't want any complaining later. :D LOL :D
              Rick L.
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              Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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              • VanguardUK
                Lieutenant
                • Feb 2009
                • 58

                My periscopes were mounted on Corks & removable from below, on the surface the scope falls down but as you dive the buoyancy of the cork forces it to rise - this is an old trick that i was told about when I first started in Sub Building.
                I like to ruin my boats at PD so always have at least one scope.

                I found a few more pic's of my old T so here you go.
                Attached Files

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                • toppack
                  Rear Admiral
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1124

                  Great Info and pics.
                  Really like the guns!
                  I don't think I can do that with my periscopes, since they're being used for air-tube and antenna holders, and I think they would hit the SD when coming down (so not much travel), but that's a great idea. :)
                  I about have the tower assembled now, except for railings and hand-holds.
                  I'll start on the guns next.
                  Last edited by toppack; 03-22-2009, 03:18 PM.
                  Rick L.
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                  • VanguardUK
                    Lieutenant
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 58

                    Some More..........Really shouldnt have sold this one!
                    Attached Files

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                    • toppack
                      Rear Admiral
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1124

                      Yes, that was a Keeper!

                      I noticed it appears to be black color and addition of the flag in these pics.
                      Is this after a Overhaul? ;)
                      Rick L.
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                      Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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                      • VanguardUK
                        Lieutenant
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 58

                        No, the Keel is Dark grey, Upper works Green.

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                        • VanguardUK
                          Lieutenant
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 58

                          Saw this on a website & thought it may be of use

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                          • toppack
                            Rear Admiral
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1124

                            Interesting photo collection!
                            I had not found that website.
                            Thanks,
                            Rick L.
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                            Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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                            • toppack
                              Rear Admiral
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1124

                              I have a terminology question. What is the correct name for the D shaped holes in side of tower and super-structure, used as a Ladder, on exterior, from tower and deck, on the T-class? Many ships and boats have them.
                              Would just calling them 'Ladder cutouts' or 'a cutout-ladder' be correct?
                              Surely some of you Ol'-Salts know what they're called? ;)
                              My guess is that there are at least 2 names for them, the official and slang names?
                              See pic of T-class tower (they're down side of tower and in shield walls, forward of tower):
                              I was putting them into my model, but then realized I did not know what to call them, when my wife asked what those holes were for?
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                              Last edited by toppack; 03-29-2009, 08:09 PM.
                              Rick L.
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                              Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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                              • toppack
                                Rear Admiral
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 1124

                                I guess I'll just call them 'Monkey-Ladders'. :rolleyes:
                                Rick L.
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