Scratch build Skipjack-conversion : Project 1710 Beluga in 1/63 scale

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  • JHapprich
    Captain
    • Oct 2017
    • 712

    #46
    YES! I managed to find some old pictures from Andy Jungmann's large 2 metre Beluga, whos build log (roteflotte borgcore) drew my attention to the 1710 many years ago. Sadly, that site is no longer available. Two pictures of his model attached. Back then he used a set of plans that is wrong in details, actually there are 2 slightly different versions commonly available when you google 'em.

    By now ill stick to my sail as is and wait for the black color to see if its right. Mybe enlengthen that sternward ridge a bit.
    the sail makes up at least 50% of the right "look" of that specific model imo. Very distinctive. Wrong, youll get an ugly sibling of the Alfa or Akula.

    Jörg

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    Thats about 60kg of awesome!
    Pressurized air, snorkel, onboard compressor, homegrown engine.

    wonder what happened to Andy and his large scale model subs...

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    • Davidh
      Captain
      • Nov 2010
      • 719

      #47
      Impressive Joerg!

      Certainly has a presence to it. Will it fit in the back of the car?

      Dave.

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      • JHapprich
        Captain
        • Oct 2017
        • 712

        #48
        Which one? That from Andy with backseats flipped i suppose, mine' s slightly over 1mtre, but its FAT! Enough to incorporate a nice big SLA and a short'n wide balast tank that comes without baffles!

        Jörg

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        • JHapprich
          Captain
          • Oct 2017
          • 712

          #49
          Greetings. Today on the menue: filling the sail's edge and 90 percent of sanding down the plane's fillets. Also managed to adjust my phones camera to actually catch the boat in proper dimensions, for some reason it was always looking stretched in the pictures.

          Am now do very looking forward to detailing and scribing. During drying of the resin these days, i started assembling my semiscale Kehrer ALFA for fun... Click image for larger version  Name:	20221106_141107_copy_1600x1200.jpg Views:	0 Size:	39.2 KB ID:	166532Click image for larger version  Name:	20221106_150307_copy_1600x1200.jpg Views:	0 Size:	58.0 KB ID:	166534Click image for larger version  Name:	20221106_150317_copy_1600x1200.jpg Views:	0 Size:	50.4 KB ID:	166535Click image for larger version  Name:	20221106_153708_copy_900x1200.jpg Views:	0 Size:	50.7 KB ID:	166531Click image for larger version  Name:	20221106_162246_copy_1600x1200.jpg Views:	0 Size:	41.6 KB ID:	166533Click image for larger version  Name:	20221029_005447.jpg Views:	0 Size:	61.8 KB ID:	166536
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          • JHapprich
            Captain
            • Oct 2017
            • 712

            #50
            Started marking the limber holes:

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            • JHapprich
              Captain
              • Oct 2017
              • 712

              #51
              Made a rubber-string loaded pen holder that allows longitudinally shifting. Nothing new BUT mine uses the jig as a rail. Greatly helps measuring and marking. Click image for larger version

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              • JHapprich
                Captain
                • Oct 2017
                • 712

                #52
                A simple construction for parallel milling:

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                • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                  Moderator
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 12253

                  #53
                  Now, that is SLICK!
                  Who is John Galt?

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                  • JHapprich
                    Captain
                    • Oct 2017
                    • 712

                    #54
                    Thank you!

                    More detail work and i started scribing. Will make another tool for the jig using a carbide cutting disc with depth gauge for straight lines. Not happy with the diamond needle file's tip!

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                    • JHapprich
                      Captain
                      • Oct 2017
                      • 712

                      #55
                      Carbide disc kissed cfk.

                      needs denture now...

                      Diamonds are this boats best friends...

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                      • JHapprich
                        Captain
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 712

                        #56
                        Forward deck almost done:

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                        • Davidh
                          Captain
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 719

                          #57
                          Really Impressive Joerg.

                          love the attention to detail.

                          Dave.

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                          • JHapprich
                            Captain
                            • Oct 2017
                            • 712

                            #58
                            Trying what works best! Scribing on your kits is much friendlier,David! The 1:1 blueprint makes measuring and marking quite easy. However, i will not implement all the stuff thats on the plan, as in the pictures of the real oat in active duty, there is very little of it visible. There are also several errors in those plans, so i'll always stay with the phographies. Eg forward safety track, there is no interruption on starbord around the docking ring and thereshould not be that towing line from stb sail to the bow. I suspect those rims around the hull sections should not be visible either, but the bow sonar should have clear sharp edges...

                            In the end its all black- err... very dark matte grey

                            No one here happens to have proper plans or pictures of the bottom and keel and how the lower ballast water inlets were actually arranged? For the moment, i stick with Mr. Hardrocks design, as it makes more sense than the pressluft' boat's.

                            will see what happens with my antenna signal, next.

                            Jörg

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                            • JHapprich
                              Captain
                              • Oct 2017
                              • 712

                              #59
                              Hello! I recently mostly finished scribing the deck details. This evening i milled out the floodholes on the lower hull and made the wing-shaped sockets for those sternward flow sensors from brass, which will be put into recesses milled just forward of the planes. Sidenote i figured my planes beeing slightly too large, but i actually like that look more than the thin fins of the original S-533 so i'll most likely keep'em.

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                              • JHapprich
                                Captain
                                • Oct 2017
                                • 712

                                #60
                                More details:

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                                That sensor array should actually have 3 of those tubes. However i installed only one for stability. This is 1.5mm stainless steel rod.

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                                i also tested the radio - indoor- put the wtc into the hull and closed it up, anntenna at full length insede the boat in parallel to the battery cable for poor conditions. Changed rooms to the other side of the house, doors closed. Wife stood watch at the model. Corona receiver at 40mhz. Many electric devices in the house ON.

                                No signal loss not even rattling of the servos.

                                Am positively disappointed which causes following question:

                                Is this carbon fibre?

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