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  • greenman407
    Admiral
    • Feb 2009
    • 7530

    British submarine id

    As we did for the Russian boats, lets do for the British subs as well. As its easy to see that British Boats tend to be very interesting and confusing at the same time. So lets take some of the mystery out of them. We are going to start with the boats that served in WW2 first. Most of them were constructed way before the start of hostilities. Then we will move on to the more modern ones. They are as follows in order of design but not always in order of appearance.
    O class
    Parthian class
    Rainbow class
    Thames class
    S class (shark)
    Porpoise class
    U class
    V class
    T class
    A class
    For each class we will provide pictures and text. That way you can create your own picture files and store the pictures of each class in there own file for future reference. My sources of reference are "100 Years of Royal Navy Submarines" by Jeremy Flack, and Wikipedia as well as my own archives of submarine pictures to which I add to daily.
    Last edited by greenman407; 07-12-2011, 05:08 PM.
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  • greenman407
    Admiral
    • Feb 2009
    • 7530

    #2
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ID:	63123First on our list is the O class. Production was divided into three(3) groups. Nine(9) total were made.Starting with Oberon in 1926 it was s****ped on 8-45. Group 2 was the most numerous with six(6) boats constructed. It had the best performance of the class. They were 283' ft. 6" long and a 29' 10" beam. They could reach 17.5 knots on the surface and 8.5 submerged. There were six(6) bow tubes and two(2) stern tubes and one(1) 4" deck gun.All were lost in action except one which survived to be s****ped. The records show no sucesses as far as sinking any ships. However in the looks department , the O class boats are very classy with that unusual shaped bow. They are easy to spot.Click image for larger version

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    • greenman407
      Admiral
      • Feb 2009
      • 7530

      #3
      Similar to the O class, the Parthian class had a racked bow and a 4" gun shield. There were six(6) built and they were all completed in 1929. All were lost except for the Proteus which was s****ped in 1946. 289 ft. 2" was the length and 29 ft. 11" was the beam. They could make 18 knots on the surface and 8.5 submerged. The armaments were six(6) bow tubes and two(2) stern tubes along with a 4" deck gun. This group of boats registered many sucesses in action.Click image for larger version

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      HMS Parthian on the right.
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      HMS Parthian shown on the right.
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      • greenman407
        Admiral
        • Feb 2009
        • 7530

        #4
        The Rainbow class came next. Only four(4) were built however indicating not complete satisfaction with the design. They were however, a continuation of the O and the Parthian class but they were two(2) feet shorter and had the gun shelf mounted lower. All were lost except for Rover which was s****ped in 1946. 287 ft. 2" long were they with a 29 ft. 11" beam and 18 knots surfaced speed. Submerged speed was 8.5 knots. They had the usual six(6) bow tubes and two(2) stern tubes but this time was mounted a 4.7" gun.Click image for larger version

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        • greenman407
          Admiral
          • Feb 2009
          • 7530

          #5
          The Thames class was represented by only three(3) examples. Once again the Admiraltys desire for a true Fleet boat that could keep up with the rest of the fleet, surfaced once again. To acheive this they doubled the horsepower of her diesel as well as her electric motors. However this caused a coresponding increase in overall length to 345 ft. That coupled with hydrodynamic losses caused an increase in surfaced speed of only 2.5 knots to 21.5 knots. She also differed in that she had no stern tubes and retained the six in the bow. Another interesting thing is that this class is the first ones on our list that the individual names of the boats in their group differed from the beggining letter of the class. In other words you would expect that all the names of the boats of the T class would all start with the letter "T". Not so with the Thames class as well as one of the
          S" class and all of the Porpoise class and a few of the "U" and "V" classes. They must have run out of names.Click image for larger version

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          • greenman407
            Admiral
            • Feb 2009
            • 7530

            #6
            The "S" class(Shark) was much smaller than the previous three classes that we've listed here. These boats were designed to optimize range and weapons carriage with the capability to operate in shallower waters. Improvements were also made in survivability and greater depth capability. Their reputation was that they could submerge in 30 seconds. Another improvement that was Incorporated was the installation of two(2) escape hatches, one for and one aft. This feature alone saved the lives of hundreds of men in the "S" boats and subsequent designs. The third batch of these boats was supposed to have seven(7) torpedo tubes including one(1) external but the stern tube was not fitted to all of them and some boats had a higher free board extending forward. Some hulls were welded but most were riveted. The third group which was by far the most numerous had these statistics: 217 ft. long with a beam of 23 ft. 9". Speed was 14.75 knots surfaced and 10 knots submerged.Click image for larger version

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            • greenman407
              Admiral
              • Feb 2009
              • 7530

              #7
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              • Kazzer
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                • Aug 2008
                • 2848

                #8
                Originally posted by greenman407
                You're just doing this to make me happy, aren't you?

                See The Witch and her cat!
                Last edited by Kazzer; 07-15-2011, 07:03 PM.
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                • greenman407
                  Admiral
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 7530

                  #9
                  You were nice enough to give me these pics, They kind of personalize this thread , dont you think.
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                  • greenman407
                    Admiral
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 7530

                    #10
                    Porpoise class
                    These were dedicated minelayers. Only six(6) were built due to the fact that a mine designed to be torpedo tube launched was developed. These boats had a very interesting conveyor belt design on the delivery system for the mines. It was outside of the pressure hull. All were lost except for HMS Seal which was captured. It was repaired by the Germans and designated UB and used for training. One bad thing that came from this was that the Germans examined the torpedo detonation mechanism in the torpedos and used it to improve the design of there own. On the plus side was that Four(4) German ships were sunk by the mines planted by HMS Seal. They were 293 ft. long with a beam of 25 ft. 5" and there speed was 15 knots on top and 8.75 down beneath.Six(6) bow tubes and one(1) 4" gun.Click image for larger version

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                    Sorry, this does not belong here. This is an S class
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                    • greenman407
                      Admiral
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 7530

                      #11
                      U class ( small patrol submarines)
                      Originally designed as a unarmed target submarine for anti-submarine warfare training. They were later armed to train submarine crews.They at first had six torpedo tubes, two being external, on top of the forward bow. This was also done on the early T class. It was discontinued on the second batch because of creating a large wake which interfered with visibility at optimum periscope depth. They were the perfect size for coastal water use. Forty Nine(49) were built. 196 ft. 10" long, 16 ft. beam, 12.5 knots surfaced , 10 knots submerged. four(4) 21" torpedo tubes One(1) 3" AA gun.Click image for larger version

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                      • greenman407
                        Admiral
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 7530

                        #12
                        V class
                        Based on the U class. It had a partially welded hull which improved diving capability. Visually very similar to the second batch of the U class except that the V class has a more raked casing. The aircraft direction finder aerial was relocated to just aft of the casing instead of on it. They were slightly longer and had more powerful diesels. Thirty Three(33) were built. Very noteworthy was HMS Venturer, which sank U-771 on 11-11-44. A few months later on 2-9-45 she sank U-864 while both boats were at periscope depth. 204 ft. 6" length, 16 ft. beam, 12.4 knots surfaced and 9 knots submerged. Equipped they were with Four(4) torpedo tubes up front and one(1) 3" AA gun.Click image for larger version

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                        • Kazzer
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                          • Aug 2008
                          • 2848

                          #13
                          Here are some more photos of British U Class
                          Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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                          • greenman407
                            Admiral
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 7530

                            #14
                            Thanks Mike.
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                            • Kazzer
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                              • Aug 2008
                              • 2848

                              #15
                              I found some plans of VI and posted them here




                              But, is this the same V class you refer to?
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