Today's work on the little Revell SKIPJACK fittings kit

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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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    • Aug 2008
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    #31
    Originally posted by Subculture
    I think these are really going to sell like hot cakes if you can get the price right on this, Dave.

    A lot of model submariners over here are interested in weeny boats lately, as exhibitions are increasingly supplying very small pools for display (if you're lucky), which confine larger models to dry dock.

    The Skipjack won't look out of place with just the tower out of the water- they must have one of the lowest freeboards of any sub short of a Holland class.
    Andy, I find what you guys think is the 'right price' is just enough for me to go slowly out of business. My work is priced to keep me interested and employed.

    I don't build for the 'everyman', I build for the serious r/c submariner. You want cheap, try Wal-Mart. You want good, try me.

    Am I touchy on this particular topic (pricing of my goods and services)?...

    ... Yup, I am. Amateurs suggesting to a professional what to do. Often appreciated. Sometimes grating.

    I listen to those in the game, my peers who do this professionally. I'm inclined to dismiss suggestions of pricing from those who are not.

    I would not dare to tell you how to market your vast electronics skills to prospective employers, Andy, I'm simply not qualified to do so. So I don't

    I agree, this thing will operate in very small bodies of water -- we'll see how many are willing to pay the price to play in small bodies of water. Stay tuned, sports fans.

    David,
    Who is John Galt?

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    • redboat219
      Admiral
      • Dec 2008
      • 2774

      #32
      Originally posted by Subculture

      A lot of model submariners over here are interested in weeny boats lately, as exhibitions are increasingly supplying very small pools for display (if you're lucky), which confine larger models to drydock.
      I for one would like to see either an RCed Revell U-99, Trumpeter Gato or Romeo class.
      Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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      • redboat219
        Admiral
        • Dec 2008
        • 2774

        #33
        Can you tell us something about the electronics you're using on this pocket rocket?
        Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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        • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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          • Aug 2008
          • 12368

          #34
          Originally posted by redboat219
          I for one would like to see either an RCed Revell U-99, Trumpeter Gato or Romeo class.
          They're all in the pipeline. As soon as I get the little SKIPJACK and its SubDriver into production mode I have to work on the big 1/72 Type-7 fittings kit, after that, it's whatever Mr. Caswell assigns me.

          But be assured, I've got just about every plastic model kit of a submarine that is currently available commercially -- and each and every one that will accommodate a 1.25 SD has been targeted for the fittings kit-SubDriver treatment. So, that should make you Happy. Only problem is, there is one of me and a seemingly endless list of things to do here.

          A long-winded answers, but there you have it.

          David,
          Who is John Galt?

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          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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            • Aug 2008
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            #35
            Originally posted by redboat219
            Can you tell us something about the electronics you're using on this pocket rocket?
            All stock stuff: the little WFly receiver, Kevin McLeod's excellent ADF for angle-keeping chores, and his little Lithium-polymer battery protection circuit, a little 240 can motor, a 'special' MTronics ESC we had made to fit the small cylinder, two mini-servos, and a little helicopter Lithium-polymer 7.4-volt battery.
            Who is John Galt?

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            • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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              • Aug 2008
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              #36
              Three specific chores are addressed here: removal of the bow piece from the lower hull and bonding it to the upper hull half; filling up the gap between the two hull halves when joined; and re-contouring the bow employing the screeding technique.

              First, I identified the gape between upper and lower hull by loosely holding them together, I then placed masking tape on both halve so that the edge of each (one on the upper half, and the other on the lower half of the hull) would meet. The hull halves were taken apart and thick formula CA applied to the area inboard (sticky side) of the tape and atop the hull flange/edge. I then sprinkled on baking soda to build up and harden the fill. This repeated till top and bottom hull halve had their edges built up, eliminating the gap when the hull halves are assembled together.

              Once the longitudinal hull gap was tightened, I chopped off the forward bow from the lower hull and bonded that piece to the upper hull. The forward edge of the internal foreword SubDriver back-stop formed the radial flange that captures the upper hull, holding it down on the lower hull when the two halves are assembled.

              I then employed the fittings kit provided screeding tool to re-contoured the bow of the model to more closely match that of the prototype -- the kits bow being much too blunt. Evercoats Metal Glaze filler was the build-up material of choice here. About five layers of filler and I had a new nose on the submarine, changing the entire character of the display!

              David,
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              Who is John Galt?

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              • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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                • Aug 2008
                • 12368

                #37
                Some more shots of todays work. Note that this second production tool not only produces the screeding blade and screed blade centering disk, but also a replacement set of sail planes.

                Sharpening the leading edge of the kit provided sail and re-contouring of the bow makes this model almost a dead ringer for the prototype SKIPJACK submarines. Revell was close; those little refinements I've come up with get it almost perfect.

                David,
                Attached Files
                Who is John Galt?

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                • redboat219
                  Admiral
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 2774

                  #38
                  Cheap Rhinoplasty

                  Originally posted by Merriman
                  five layers of filler and I had a new nose on the submarine, changing the entire character of the display!

                  David,
                  Paging Dr. Merriman. You're wanted in O.R. No. 6. lol!
                  Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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                  • redboat219
                    Admiral
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 2774

                    #39
                    How do you plan to counter the "Snap-Roll" inherent with the SJ during high speed turns?
                    Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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                    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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                      • Aug 2008
                      • 12368

                      #40
                      Originally posted by redboat219
                      How do you plan to counter the "Snap-Roll" inherent with the SJ during high speed turns?
                      Just like we do on the real things: First, determine the specifics of the operational envelope. Second, steer within the operational envelope.

                      David,
                      Last edited by Outrider; 02-11-2010, 10:13 AM.
                      Who is John Galt?

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                      • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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                        • Aug 2008
                        • 12368

                        #41
                        Originally posted by junglelord
                        Would the 1.25 Sub Driver work in a Seaview?
                        The 13 inch ones? Thanks.

                        PS I can see having to deviate due to it being a pumpjet, and going with some more basic prop set up, but any ideas for that?>
                        I'm looking into it.

                        David,
                        Who is John Galt?

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                        • junglelord
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                          • Jan 2009
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                          #42
                          You are the one who can do it, if any one can, you can.
                          I am glad to see the amazing advances in electronics open up new worlds, both with park flyers and subs.

                          Thanks Mr Merriman. I appreciate all your hard work and kindness.
                          Cheers
                          Dean

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                          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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                            • Aug 2008
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                            #43
                            Once I had built up the edges between the two hull halves, to narrow the gap, a chore done with CA and baking powder, I cut out a bunch of narrow strips of .020" polystyrene sheet and glued them, stagger fashion, within the hull halves, inboard. These served as indexing tabs to pull the two hull haves into alignment when assembled.

                            To get the two hulls even on the outside I initially used Evercoat two-part filler. The final spot filling of scratch-marks and remaining dings was done with air-dry Nitro-Stan putty which was wet-sanded smooth. The a heavy application of primer finished the days work.

                            David,
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                            Who is John Galt?

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                            • junglelord
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                              • Jan 2009
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                              #44
                              Wow, thats all extremely helpful...I really thankyou for taking the time to take pictures, post them and explain the process.
                              I'll drink to THAT!

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                              • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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                                • Aug 2008
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                                #45
                                Originally posted by junglelord
                                Wow, thats all extremely helpful...I really thankyou for taking the time to take pictures, post them and explain the process.
                                I'll drink to THAT!
                                Stop kissing up!

                                Assemble something!
                                Who is John Galt?

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