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  • greenman407
    Admiral
    • Feb 2009
    • 7530

    #331
    Well shes working today. Must be the new connectors. Ill unplug and plug them in a bunch of times to make sure Ive got a good connection and wiggle a bunch of wires around. The red light on the LIPO guard is on. according to the instructions for it the red light is supposed to go out and the first and last green will come on, showing shutdown due to low voltage. I was wrong.
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    • greenman407
      Admiral
      • Feb 2009
      • 7530

      #332
      To keep important wires from chafing and possibly shorting out against the Aluminum servo and appliance mounting trays I have CAed sheet plastic in several areas where wires will come in contact with those trays, as you can see here in the first picture. In the second , this is how I plumbed the CAN BUSS connections for the SAS pump, LIPO Guard and BEC. I attached them directly to the Deans plug terminals, via an intermediate connection wire, so that its not too busy at the plug. Spread it out a little bit, Ya Know? Maybe its neater than another alternative. The deans plug that connects to this one , of course, runs up into the forward Battery compartment. In order to have easy access, the wire is made long enough to allow easy access to the plug connection and to get the equipment tray out where you can work on it. After the connections are made you just pull the extra wire up into the battery compartment before sealing up that end. Plenty of room up there.
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      • greenman407
        Admiral
        • Feb 2009
        • 7530

        #333
        Without naming any names(dave), I think someones getting Impatient with me. I cant do anything else to the Sub-Driver until I get my new LIPO. The other one is fried. I have been working on the sail. So There!watch
        Last edited by greenman407; 11-19-2013, 07:47 AM.
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        • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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          • Aug 2008
          • 13390

          #334
          Ha!......................................
          Who is John Galt?

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          • greenman407
            Admiral
            • Feb 2009
            • 7530

            #335
            Hey! Who took away the emoticons. Without the emoticons how can I express my innermost feelings and relay my hidden emotions? Besides............they are cute.
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            • greenman407
              Admiral
              • Feb 2009
              • 7530

              #336
              With new LIPO in hand I thought I would share some info about these things. First youll note the 6400 Mah rating. If you move the decimal place 3 places to the left, that will give you your Amp Hour rating of 6.4 Amp Hours.

              The 3S symbol denotes 3 cells adding up to 11.1 nominal volts. For safety sake, do not exceed 4.2 volts per cell nor go under 3.7 volts per cell.

              Store your LIPOs at 30% to 50% capacity for longest life.

              2 cell lipos should not go below 6.4 volts and 3 cells should not go below 9.6 volts.

              The C rating is the batterys Mah rating divided by 1000.

              1c charge rating is the safest, although some can be charged higher. Consult the paperwork that came with your battery.

              In the picture you will note a 25C rating. Thats discharge rating. Do not exceed this.

              71 WH is Watt hours. Thats determined by multiplying your Amp hours by Volts.

              Do not exceed 115 degree Fahrenheit during charge.

              Do not exceed 140 degree Fahrenheit during discharge.

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              • greenman407
                Admiral
                • Feb 2009
                • 7530

                #337
                Note the battery on the left. See how puffy it is compared to the new one on the right. Ive never used it. Ive charged it about 4 times without a balance charger and left it in my storage shed at 120 degree temperatures. I believe that this contributed to its demise. From now on Ill store it at work in cooler temperatures and store it at 50% charge or there abouts and will be balance charging only.
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                • greenman407
                  Admiral
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 7530

                  #338
                  Here we go with the pushrod install. Doesnt take much bending at all to get them to line up. If youll notice, following the suggestions of others, I have installed a piece of hose from the top of the safety valve and run it thru the deck and down into the bottom.
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                  • greenman407
                    Admiral
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 7530

                    #339
                    Mini update here. To better secure the pushrod to the sail magnet, I borrowed some clevises from a airplane pushrod kit and drilled out,(ever so extremely carefully) the center of it to 1/8" ,to fit over the extended magnet, like thus. Also I am going to try using a Sullivan "Goldenrod". A nylon control cable. To prepare for the nylon control cable, there is a need to clean out a spot for it. Here you can see some "Dremel" work. Using the small drum sander attachment and "xacto" knife, to make a trough for it. The last shot shows how much room that you have for the control cable and its hookup at the tail end of the Subdriver location. Looks to be about 1/4"-5/16".
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                    Last edited by greenman407; 11-23-2013, 05:11 PM.
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                    • greenman407
                      Admiral
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 7530

                      #340
                      After installing the supplied and suggested sail pushrod end at the subdriver, I have mixed feelings. A good system to be sure, but Im afraid that when you go to remove the hull top section, there will be a tendency to bend the pushrod where it exits the subdriver as well as at the allen head bracket joint. Im proposing installing a hold down. Ill have to make one and install it with two small screws to the top edge of the motor bulkhead. Picture soon.Click image for larger version

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                      • greenman407
                        Admiral
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 7530

                        #341
                        This picture gives us a better idea how much room is available and where to set your pushrod. Really, for all intents and purposes, it couldnt be any better. Youve got very little play, and thats good. You almost cant go wrong by setting it close to the underside of the hull. As far as setting the length, youve got a lot of adjustment. If you use a threaded Klikon then there is adjustment there. You have two adjustments on your pushrod bracket where the pushrod exits the subdriver. If you use a threaded clevis at the sail, then you have adjustment there. Im thinking that upon assembly for operation that you would move the radio stick to the full up position and your sail set to the full dive position. After top hull is attached move radio lever to down position and sail plane to surface position. At that point your magnets will...."click". .....Uh....that is ...of course how I think its going to go.
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                        • greenman407
                          Admiral
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 7530

                          #342
                          How long should your pushrod assembly coming off the sail and extending back to connect up be? Easy! Carefully measure from the front lip of the seam where bottom hull joins top hull to the aft end of the sail magnet(do this at sail plane neutral position). Right that measurement down. You can use a small tri square to be accurate.
                          Then , measure from the lip of the seam on the bottom of the hull back to the inside of the motor bulkhead, looking thru the clear acrylic. On mine Im looking at close to 20&11/16". Then the Klikon is sticking forward of that by 7/16". That is at radio stick neutral. So subtracting the two gives us 20&1/4". Remember the number we got using the square? Subtract that and you have your distance, in this case 17&1/4". Thatll get us real close..end to end of control cable including magnets. If your using the clevis hookup that I am on the front then it would be to the rear of the drilled 1/8" hole in the clevis.Uh...........duh!(no emoticon available)
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                          Last edited by greenman407; 11-23-2013, 07:03 PM.
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                          • greenman407
                            Admiral
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 7530

                            #343
                            Here is Daves setup. I believe in this picture, he has yet to install any hold downs for it.
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                            • greenman407
                              Admiral
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 7530

                              #344
                              I have elected to use this ready made pushrod cable for aircraft, just cut to length to suit you. If it doesnt work, ill just take it out. No harm done. I just tack CAed it in a couple of spots just off center to line up with my Klikon on the Subdriver. Notice that I used a brass short section as a holdown at the tail end. If I end up using dual magnets at this joint then I will add another one all the way back to better support the cable so that when you lift up the top hull to remove it, youll have no stress put on it.
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                              Last edited by greenman407; 11-25-2013, 01:47 PM.
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                              • greenman407
                                Admiral
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 7530

                                #345
                                The length worked out perfect. I can already tell you that Ill have to use two magnets. I can grab the sail planes and with little effort , I can break the magnet loose. With High Speed water breaking over them, I dont want it to disengage. However, the sail planes are not critical to operation as most of the control, I believe, will rest with the stern planes. Sail planes are just the icing on the cake. But, I still dont want them coming loose.
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