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  • VanguardUK
    Lieutenant
    • Feb 2009
    • 58

    Originally posted by toppack
    Has anyone mailed a Drawing yet?
    I hate to be a Pest about this, but I'm Diein' here guys!
    pm me your address & I'll see if i can dig out my plans & I'll send them over the water to you.

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    • toppack
      Rear Admiral
      • Nov 2008
      • 1124

      Originally posted by VanguardUK
      pm me your address & I'll see if i can dig out my plans & I'll send them over the water to you.
      I Did! It was 2 days ago that I sent it in PM. :confused:
      It should be indicated on top right of forum page.
      I will try sending it again.

      Thank you very much,
      Last edited by toppack; 03-07-2009, 12:28 PM.
      Rick L.
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      • toppack
        Rear Admiral
        • Nov 2008
        • 1124

        Another error in the construction of the fiberglass cover is that the superstructure area is Way too wide just forward of the tower, but I can't figure out an easy way to correct that, so I guess it will have to stay that way. :(
        Whoever redid the cover mold needs another Whoopen! Crack That WHip

        The narrow area is visible in this pic:
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        Last edited by toppack; 03-08-2009, 04:26 PM.
        Rick L.
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        • VanguardUK
          Lieutenant
          • Feb 2009
          • 58

          This is only on some later modified boats

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          • Kazzer
            *********
            • Aug 2008
            • 2848

            Originally posted by toppack
            Another error in the construction of the fiberglass cover is that the superstructure area is Way too wide just forward of the tower, but I can't figure out an easy way to correct that, so I guess it will have to stay that way. :(
            Whoever redid the cover mold needs another Whoopen! Crack That WHip

            The narrow area is visible in this pic:

            Rick! You must remember that these boats morphed weekly. You need to take ONE boat, and one photo of it and stick to that, otherwise you'll end up with a pigs ear of a mess. No two boats were the same by the time the war was finished, and after that, they went into 'Slippery T mode' .
            To say the upper cover is wrong is incorrect.

            So, I ask you, which model are you trying to replicate?
            Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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            • toppack
              Rear Admiral
              • Nov 2008
              • 1124

              What I'm saying is that it's not correct for both Group 2 or 3 boats, that I have pictures and drawings of. Group 1 boats have even More differences from model cover than 2 & 3 do.
              I'm modeling the Tally-ho, which is a Group 3, and similar to other group 2s & 3s in those areas.
              I posted that picture since shape of forward deck is very easy to see, but others have same shape.
              Altho obvious, the forward deck error is not as bad as the aft deck error.
              I can certainly see why they did it. The mold would be much more difficult to make if they shaped those areas correctly, (more curved areas and surface direction changes would be needed).
              Sorry, I just feel they are obvious errors that need to be noted.
              With work most mold errors can be fixed tho and it's been fun doing it, where I can. :)

              Do you know why they changed the cover mold?
              Evidently the original Darnell mold was more correct in those areas.
              Last edited by toppack; 03-09-2009, 03:27 PM.
              Rick L.
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              • Deep Diver
                Lieutenant, Junior Grade
                • Jan 2009
                • 14

                Re drawings i hope to get down to the copy shop at the end of the month, will let evey one know the cost for copys, then try and send them out to any ony that needs a copy.

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                • toppack
                  Rear Admiral
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1124

                  Originally posted by Deep Diver
                  Re drawings i hope to get down to the copy shop at the end of the month, will let evey one know the cost for copys, then try and send them out to any ony that needs a copy.
                  Sounds good!
                  But the problem is, I was ready to start cutting holes and making parts, last week.
                  So it may be too late to make changes, if it's a month or more before I get the drawing. :o
                  Are your drawings of an actual T-class or of a model?

                  Mike,
                  I've determined the drawing file you sent was made for or from a 'model' someone made, not an actual T-class. It only shows the size, shape and location of his models parts.
                  It may have been made from the model pictured below: (since drawing shows the exhaust-pipe looking tubes that are incorrectly on this model)

                  It's starting to get very frustrating trying to get accurate Information about the Real boat details. :rolleyes:
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                  Last edited by toppack; 03-09-2009, 01:24 PM.
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                  Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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                  • toppack
                    Rear Admiral
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 1124

                    I can't figure out a good way to make the deck-grills (or gratings). I certainly don't want to cut out each of the Many louvered slots for them, so I'm thinking about cutting out large holes, milling the edges of the holes to make a small ledge around them and then epoxying in stainless-steel screen-wire, which is sturdy and I have already. The FG is thick enough, so making the ledges should not be much of a problem.
                    This should also provide more than enough deck vents for vent/blow action.
                    I don't want to just paint them on.
                    Anyone have suggestions of how to simulate those many gratings?
                    Thanks,
                    Pic is part of drawing showing some of deck grating:
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                    Last edited by toppack; 03-09-2009, 06:07 PM.
                    Rick L.
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                    Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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                    • Deep Diver
                      Lieutenant, Junior Grade
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 14

                      My Drawings are from the yard marked Barrow Dockyard,

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                      • Deep Diver
                        Lieutenant, Junior Grade
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 14

                        Sorry one more thing I did a master grating, then made a rubber copey so I could make as meny as needed

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                        • VanguardUK
                          Lieutenant
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 58

                          Originally posted by toppack
                          I can't figure out a good way to make the deck-grills (or gratings). I certainly don't want to cut out each of the Many louvered slots for them, so I'm thinking about cutting out large holes, milling the edges of the holes to make a small ledge around them and then epoxying in stainless-steel screen-wire, which is sturdy and I have already. The FG is thick enough, so making the ledges should not be much of a problem.
                          This should also provide more than enough deck vents for vent/blow action.
                          I don't want to just paint them on.
                          Anyone have suggestions of how to simulate those many gratings?
                          Thanks,
                          Pic is part of drawing showing some of deck grating:
                          This is how I made mine, Brass mesh overlaid with Evergreen Strut, not 100% authentic but looked very effective & served to vent the casing when diving,
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                          • toppack
                            Rear Admiral
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1124

                            Originally posted by VanguardUK
                            This is how I made mine, Brass mesh overlaid with Evergreen Strut, not 100% authentic but looked very effective & served to vent the casing when diving,
                            Looks great, that's similar to my idea. I still need to get something to make the overlay strips tho. They need to be sturdy but very thin. I was considering using brass for overlay since I think it's available in thinner strips.
                            I hope I can make mine look that good.

                            Oh Man, Look at all those little holes I need to drill, in perfect rows no less! :eek:
                            The present mold puts in only some of the dimples to indicate where all those holes should be.
                            Another error in the new mold! :(
                            Last edited by toppack; 03-10-2009, 10:58 AM.
                            Rick L.
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                            Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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                            • toppack
                              Rear Admiral
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 1124

                              Originally posted by Deep Diver
                              My Drawings are from the yard marked Barrow Dockyard,
                              Does that mean they were made like a Real T-class (it sounds like it does)
                              or from some one's model?
                              Last edited by toppack; 03-10-2009, 10:20 AM.
                              Rick L.
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                              Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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                              • VanguardUK
                                Lieutenant
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 58

                                Here's a close up of the bow, again copied from a photo from the book.
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