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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
    Moderator

    • Aug 2008
    • 13203

    #46
    Originally posted by MFR1964
    David,
    Will leave the safetyfloat out since i go for snort, hopefully it will compensate the extra conduit, if not, then the boat is loaded to the rim for going on warpatrol.

    Manfred
    As the length of the tank -- hence, the length of the conduit -- is short, and I'm assuming its dimeter will be no greater than 3/8", then it'll be an equal trade-off of volume between the removed safety float-valve and installed conduit. You're Golden!
    Who is John Galt?

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    • redboat219
      Admiral

      • Dec 2008
      • 3343

      #47
      How about an external connection? I remember seeing a WTC in one of the threads here showing external power cables connected to studs coming out the sides of the ballast tank bulkheads.

      I have a customer who got a hold of one of Skip's old Albacore kits. Does anyone happen to have a scan of the instructions I could pass along to him?
      Last edited by redboat219; 01-05-2025, 07:46 PM.
      Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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      • He Who Shall Not Be Named
        Moderator

        • Aug 2008
        • 13203

        #48
        Originally posted by redboat219
        How about an external connection? I remember seeing a WTC in one of the threads here showing external power cables connected to studs coming out of each endcap
        An option, but not on this little model: the annular space between WTC and hull is so tight as to make that effort a waste of time.

        David
        Who is John Galt?

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        • MFR1964
          Detail Nut of the First Order

          • Sep 2010
          • 1461

          #49
          The Flu got me, it took some weeks to recover, but still building ahead, first the things i did untill the Flu hitted me.

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          Since i want to both steer and retract the forward divingplanes i altered the front bulkhead to give me room for three servo's

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          Placed the new servo's and made some magnetic connectors

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          A fit to see if everything will fit inside the boat.

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          Retracting the dive planes creates a problem, it must be possible to put the upper half on while making the connection for the retracting mechanism, glued the frontpart down

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          After glueing the front part i took the jewelers saw and cutted it free.

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          This is the result, you can lift the upperpart in the middle of the boat, at that moment the Flu hit me, next chapter was started after the Flu

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          Made this contraption for holding both scopes and the schnorkeltube.

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          The stainless tube of the schnorkel will slide over the bras tube, making the connection to snort.

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          The front tube has a inlet to suck up the air while bringing the boat up

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          The contraption will fit underneath the conningtower.

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          Complete conningtower with all the gizmo's placed, even found some scale mesh to clad the FUMO radar, for now i'm working on the magnetic connection of the upper hull part, to be continued

          Manfred.





          I went underground

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          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
            Moderator

            • Aug 2008
            • 13203

            #50
            Originally posted by MFR1964
            The Flu got me, it took some weeks to recover, but still building ahead, first the things i did untill the Flu hitted me.

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ID:	185762
            Since i want to both steer and retract the forward divingplanes i altered the front bulkhead to give me room for three servo's

            Click image for larger version

Name:	20241126_154131.jpg
Views:	112
Size:	45.7 KB
ID:	185763
            Placed the new servo's and made some magnetic connectors

            Click image for larger version

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Views:	113
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ID:	185764
            A fit to see if everything will fit inside the boat.

            Click image for larger version

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Views:	109
Size:	49.9 KB
ID:	185765
            Retracting the dive planes creates a problem, it must be possible to put the upper half on while making the connection for the retracting mechanism, glued the frontpart down

            Click image for larger version

Name:	20241208_144806.jpg
Views:	147
Size:	46.6 KB
ID:	185766
            After glueing the front part i took the jewelers saw and cutted it free.

            Click image for larger version

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Views:	118
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ID:	185767
            This is the result, you can lift the upperpart in the middle of the boat, at that moment the Flu hit me, next chapter was started after the Flu

            Click image for larger version

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Views:	138
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ID:	185768
            Made this contraption for holding both scopes and the schnorkeltube.

            Click image for larger version

Name:	20241216_175700.jpg
Views:	119
Size:	50.8 KB
ID:	185769
            The stainless tube of the schnorkel will slide over the bras tube, making the connection to snort.

            Click image for larger version

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Views:	108
Size:	61.7 KB
ID:	185772
            The front tube has a inlet to suck up the air while bringing the boat up

            Click image for larger version

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Views:	109
Size:	53.4 KB
ID:	185770
            The contraption will fit underneath the conningtower.

            Click image for larger version

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Views:	107
Size:	52.9 KB
ID:	185771

            Complete conningtower with all the gizmo's placed, even found some scale mesh to clad the FUMO radar, for now i'm working on the magnetic connection of the upper hull part, to be continued

            Manfred.




            Outstanding!
            Who is John Galt?

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            • MFR1964
              Detail Nut of the First Order

              • Sep 2010
              • 1461

              #51
              Got to feed your brain David

              Manfred
              I went underground

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              • MFR1964
                Detail Nut of the First Order

                • Sep 2010
                • 1461

                #52
                Since i have chosen for retracteble divingplanes i had to make a different way for using the magnets holding the deck.

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                First i made a lip for holding the magnet at the stern, this one is horizontal orientated

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                The magnet at the stern on the upperdeck, i use different size of magnets, using too big of a magnet will give trouble taking the deck off.

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                The front magnet is placed vertical at the bow.

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                Same story for the magnet at the bow of the upperdeck, in the background you can see the mechanism for retracting the diveplanes.

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                Upperdeck closed.

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                Upperdeck removed from the boat, placing the magnets vertical at the bow allows me to lift that part first, the horizontal magnet follows without force

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                This was a bummer, the bowpart was not propely aligned, had to cut it free and re-glued it again.

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                While the bowpart was curing i made this.

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                Once put together it looks likes this.

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                Closed position

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                Open position

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                Prior to cutting open the torpedo shutters, yes, the mechanism is build to control the shutters.

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                All shutters cutted open in the rough.

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                First i want to get this working, later on i will make this tidy.

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                This is the point where i stand now, a central hindge pin on which the shutters will pivot, first have to build some brackets to keep this contraption at it's place.

                Manfred.

                I went underground

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                • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                  Moderator

                  • Aug 2008
                  • 13203

                  #53
                  Originally posted by MFR1964
                  Since i have chosen for retracteble divingplanes i had to make a different way for using the magnets holding the deck.

                  Click image for larger version

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ID:	185924
                  First i made a lip for holding the magnet at the stern, this one is horizontal orientated

                  Click image for larger version

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Views:	88
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ID:	185925
                  The magnet at the stern on the upperdeck, i use different size of magnets, using too big of a magnet will give trouble taking the deck off.

                  Click image for larger version

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Views:	79
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ID:	185926
                  The front magnet is placed vertical at the bow.

                  Click image for larger version

Name:	20241216_175946.jpg
Views:	81
Size:	51.5 KB
ID:	185927
                  Same story for the magnet at the bow of the upperdeck, in the background you can see the mechanism for retracting the diveplanes.

                  Click image for larger version

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ID:	185928
                  Upperdeck closed.

                  Click image for larger version

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Views:	81
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ID:	185929
                  Upperdeck removed from the boat, placing the magnets vertical at the bow allows me to lift that part first, the horizontal magnet follows without force

                  Click image for larger version

Name:	20241217_133151.jpg
Views:	80
Size:	49.4 KB
ID:	185930
                  This was a bummer, the bowpart was not propely aligned, had to cut it free and re-glued it again.

                  Click image for larger version

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Views:	83
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ID:	185934
                  While the bowpart was curing i made this.

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ID:	185933
                  Once put together it looks likes this.

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                  Closed position

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                  Open position

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ID:	185935
                  Prior to cutting open the torpedo shutters, yes, the mechanism is build to control the shutters.

                  Click image for larger version

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Views:	83
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ID:	185936
                  All shutters cutted open in the rough.

                  Click image for larger version

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Views:	79
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ID:	185937
                  First i want to get this working, later on i will make this tidy.

                  Click image for larger version

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Views:	82
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ID:	185938
                  This is the point where i stand now, a central hindge pin on which the shutters will pivot, first have to build some brackets to keep this contraption at it's place.

                  Manfred.
                  H-O-L-Y C-R-A-P!!!!!

                  Manfred!!... you're out of your frig'n mind!!!!

                  Working shutter doors. Practical retracting bow planes. completely hidden rudder and stern plane linkage horns. Well... that's it. I quit. I'm taking my ball and going home.

                  Wow! The degree of my hatred for your incredible accomplishments cannot be measured. "GRrrrrr!"
                  Who is John Galt?

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                  • MFR1964
                    Detail Nut of the First Order

                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1461

                    #54
                    That is, if al those things will work in the future, nothing better as to spoil your day
                    I went underground

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                    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                      Moderator

                      • Aug 2008
                      • 13203

                      #55
                      Originally posted by MFR1964
                      That is, if al those things will work in the future, nothing better as to spoil your day
                      Where the hell is the 'ban' button on this damned thing???..... ****! I can't find it!!!! Foiled again!!!!!!!

                      Those irritating European's!!!!! There should be a law.
                      Who is John Galt?

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                      • MFR1964
                        Detail Nut of the First Order

                        • Sep 2010
                        • 1461

                        #56
                        Maybe your beloved president can do something for you, after all he made the mexican gulf american

                        Manfred
                        I went underground

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                        • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                          Moderator

                          • Aug 2008
                          • 13203

                          #57
                          Originally posted by MFR1964
                          Maybe your beloved president can do something for you, after all he made the mexican gulf american

                          Manfred
                          GGrrrrr!.....
                          Who is John Galt?

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                          • MFR1964
                            Detail Nut of the First Order

                            • Sep 2010
                            • 1461

                            #58
                            Some more work on the torpedoshutters and retractingmechanism for the dive-planes

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                            Inserted the pre-made innerparts on the central hinge rod.


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                            Placed some styrene strips, used the holes in the innerparts to get a good bonding with the glue.

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                            The aim will be this much movement, it should be about 8mm max.

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                            Gave the shutters some paint because when spraying the boat i can't reach at certain places in the bowpart.

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                            Pretty much the same story at the bowpart

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                            Made the brackets which will both hold the mechanism for the shutters and dive-planes.

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                            Placing the mechanism which will control the retracting action, this will be the position when the bow-planes are retracted.

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                            Extending the bow-planes will happen in this position.

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                            Made some slits in the tubes to receive the rods of the upper part containing the retract mechanism.

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                            Made a drill- jigg to dril the holes through the shafts of the upper mechanism each time the same way.

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                            Placed the stainless rods, these will slide in the previous made slits.

                            For now i have to make a make-shift steering contraption and start testing if everything will work as intended, to be continued.

                            Manfred.
                            Last edited by MFR1964; 02-18-2025, 02:39 PM.
                            I went underground

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                            • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                              Moderator

                              • Aug 2008
                              • 13203

                              #59
                              Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named

                              GGrrrrr!.....
                              Shutter doors, retract and functional bow planes, internal linkages for the rudder and stern planes... what's next!!???? You're taking me back to school, pal.
                              Who is John Galt?

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                              • trout
                                Admiral

                                • Jul 2011
                                • 3647

                                #60
                                Manfred,
                                You are a flipping show off, over achiever, and a I don't know what else to call you. Amazing work my friend. Look forward to what is next and I will be keeping notes on what you do.
                                Peace,
                                Tom
                                If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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