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  • MFR1964
    Detail Nut of the First Order

    • Sep 2010
    • 1382

    Project type XXI scale 1/96

    Did some research on this boat first before i can start cutting away, got me a nice pdf of this type of boat from Rossler

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    These are the items David has send me, she's not that big, but hey!!, it's a type XXI, and at this scale i can sharpen my skills

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    Drilled some floodholes into the rearpart, and did a dryfitt with the shafts.

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    Made the effort of changing all the rods to metric, much easier to play around with them.

    David has chosen the kiss way of steering the divingplanes and rudder, i want to try to hide them from sight, if that fails i can always go back to the way David did.
    First i will build the components i need to make this happen, and do some testing if it's worth the effort, to be contunued.

    Manfred.






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  • MFR1964
    Detail Nut of the First Order

    • Sep 2010
    • 1382

    #2
    Hiding away the steeringrods has been more work than expected, pictures

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    This was a scary cut, since i have only one rearpart, it was needed to make room for my contraption.

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    All basic components to hide the steering of the diveplanes

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    All components together, more than enough play on the divingplanes

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    Roughly oversized prior for making it fit.

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    Next scary thing, for steering the rudder i had to hog out the rearpart very carefully, so that i could place a grooved pully and a small o ring.

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    Here you can see the o ring from the inside.

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    This piece i made to get the o ring under tension, enough to get the rudder moving.

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    The trick is, by using just enough tension on the o ring, you can turn the rudder, for now it is fastened with some superglue and bakingsoda, i hope the micro servo can handle the force needed to move the rudder, if not i have to find another solution.

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    The contraption with the divingplanes is made to fit the opening and will be glued tight with some 2K glue to fill in the openings

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    Here you can see the steeringrods to make things happen, it's tight, but that was expected.
    For servicing the rearpart i will make a magnetic connection, so if needed the rearpart can be taken from the hull and serviced.


    Manfred.





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    • redboat219
      Admiral

      • Dec 2008
      • 3140

      #3
      Manfred you are a genius.
      Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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      • He Who Shall Not Be Named
        Moderator

        • Aug 2008
        • 12887

        #4
        Manfred, I hate you!!!!

        David
        Who is John Galt?

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        • redboat219
          Admiral

          • Dec 2008
          • 3140

          #5
          How about using a bevel gear system for the rudder? Click image for larger version

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          Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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          • JHapprich
            Captain

            • Oct 2017
            • 796

            #6
            Thats too loosely fitting for proper steering. Id use a miniature belt drive,too

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            • redboat219
              Admiral

              • Dec 2008
              • 3140

              #7
              Originally posted by MFR1964

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              This piece i made to get the o ring under tension, enough to get the rudder moving.

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              The trick is, by using just enough tension on the o ring, you can turn the rudder, for now it is fastened with some superglue and bakingsoda, i hope the micro servo can handle the force needed to move the rudder, if not i have to find another solution.

              Manfred.
              maybe you could fabricate a belt tensioner, put the front pulley on a small jackscrew so you adjust the tension.
              Last edited by redboat219; 12-15-2024, 07:48 AM.
              Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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              • MFR1964
                Detail Nut of the First Order

                • Sep 2010
                • 1382

                #8
                Originally posted by redboat219
                Manfred you are a genius.
                S[mply a guy who want to see what is possible or not

                Manfred.

                I went underground

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                • MFR1964
                  Detail Nut of the First Order

                  • Sep 2010
                  • 1382

                  #9
                  Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named
                  Manfred, I hate you!!!!

                  David
                  Always a pleasure to tease you

                  Manfred.
                  I went underground

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                  • MFR1964
                    Detail Nut of the First Order

                    • Sep 2010
                    • 1382

                    #10
                    Originally posted by redboat219

                    maybe you could fabricate a belt tensioner, put the front pulley on a small jackscrew so you adjust the tension.
                    Don't make it too complicate, stays the fact if the servo can pull that more force to turn the rudder, we will see in the future

                    Manfred.
                    I went underground

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                    • JHapprich
                      Captain

                      • Oct 2017
                      • 796

                      #11
                      Manfred, are you using the bow planes at the stern?

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                      • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                        Moderator

                        • Aug 2008
                        • 12887

                        #12
                        Originally posted by MFR1964

                        Always a pleasure to tease you

                        Manfred.
                        Mission accomplished, sir. Again, you take me back to school. You're the most inovative guy I've had the pleasure of knowing in decades! I'm overrated... you are the real deal.
                        Who is John Galt?

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                        • MFR1964
                          Detail Nut of the First Order

                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1382

                          #13
                          Originally posted by JHapprich
                          Manfred, are you using the bow planes at the stern?
                          Yup, at this scale they have to move, if possible retract, this will be a adventure on it's one, but where running ahead, all things step by step

                          Manfred
                          I went underground

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                          • MFR1964
                            Detail Nut of the First Order

                            • Sep 2010
                            • 1382

                            #14
                            Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named

                            Mission accomplished, sir. Again, you take me back to school. You're the most inovative guy I've had the pleasure of knowing in decades! I'm overrated... you are the real deal.
                            We both stand on the shoulders of other gifted builders David, simply showing what is possible or not.

                            Manfred.

                            I went underground

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                            • redboat219
                              Admiral

                              • Dec 2008
                              • 3140

                              #15
                              Originally posted by JHapprich
                              Manfred, are you using the bow planes at the stern?
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