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  • trout
    Admiral

    • Jul 2011
    • 3658

    #436
    Killer job on your Albacore submarine! Look forward to the weekend repor.
    If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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    • greenman407
      Admiral
      • Feb 2009
      • 7530

      #437
      Success!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      IT TAKES GREAT INTELLIGENCE TO FAKE SUCH STUPIDITY!

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      • greenman407
        Admiral
        • Feb 2009
        • 7530

        #438
        What??............................................ ......................................OH!!! You want to know how things went. Details........details...............I Hate Details.
        IT TAKES GREAT INTELLIGENCE TO FAKE SUCH STUPIDITY!

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        • greenman407
          Admiral
          • Feb 2009
          • 7530

          #439
          Ive never went out on a maiden voyage before that something didnt go wrong......................................until today. It worked great! I hit the nail right on the head, the first time. Apparently the balance was just right because I could run flat out with only the slightest oscilation and that with the ADF2 set at the least sensativity.I had the front to back balance point set at 1" in front of center of the sub. The advantage to this was seen in another way as well. Before, you couldnt go very fast on the surface or it would nose dive on you and the stern planes wouldnt help you. Now with the balance set as it is you can go much faster on the surface before it trys to dive. Also you can adjust the stern planes for "Riding on the step" as they say. In one of the pictures you can see it doing just that with the bow high. As you go faster and faster the water spilling over the deck gets further and further back toward the sail until it reaches a point where it just slips under but the tail comes up in the air and you grind to a halt. How fast did it go did you say? NOT SO FAST! You have to listen to my entire speel first. As youll see in the pictures I used my world famous chicken stick(red and white striped) as I was afraid that it might get away from me. My fears were unfounded. It was completely controlable at all times. Periscope depth was easily achieved. Remember, ive had this boat down to 30 ft. before with the reserve bouancy set "in the wild" and it would come right on up at a fast clip. Nothing has changed in that department. She still turns on a dime. Im glad that I painted her a dark, dark grey instead of black. Makes visibility easier. It leans slightly to port but I think thats because the battery was shifted somewhat to port in the front compartment. We will see.
          OK.......OK......She was very fast. The single prop Albacore with the D&E 3" Cylinder was pretty fast. A fast walk was required to keep up with it. Now to keep up with it you have to walk very briskly. A good work out for sure. Im pretty sure that the props are too big for the Speed 400 motors and the 3:1 gear reduction. Im thinking of reducing the pitch of the props by grabing each one at the tip and twisting somewhat to reduce their bite. That should give me more RPMs. What do you think Dave(HWSNBN). I offer these pictures in evidence. The light was kinda low. I will enhance some of them Monday. No video as driving and taking video was not on my list for today. Also I took know pictures of her underwater. I was kinda pushed for time. I gotta get my camera man. AL NUCI! Where are you???
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          • greenman407
            Admiral
            • Feb 2009
            • 7530

            #440
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            Last edited by greenman407; 12-15-2012, 08:27 PM.
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            • greenman407
              Admiral
              • Feb 2009
              • 7530

              #441
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              • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                Moderator

                • Aug 2008
                • 13420

                #442
                Congratulations, sir! You deserve it!

                Leave those wheels alone!

                I'll have new 3" bulkheads to you soon.

                David
                Who is John Galt?

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                • greenman407
                  Admiral
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 7530

                  #443
                  Thanks Dave, but how will the new 3" bulkheads help? More powerful motors or greater gear ratio? OR some new evil idea that I had not yet contemplated?
                  IT TAKES GREAT INTELLIGENCE TO FAKE SUCH STUPIDITY!

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                  • trout
                    Admiral

                    • Jul 2011
                    • 3658

                    #444
                    Congratulations!
                    If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                      Moderator

                      • Aug 2008
                      • 13420

                      #445
                      Originally posted by greenman407
                      Thanks Dave, but how will the new 3" bulkheads help? More powerful motors or greater gear ratio? OR some new evil idea that I had not yet contemplated?
                      Time to think brushless me thinks.

                      Hey, Andy: can we parallel two brushless motors off a common ESC?


                      David
                      Who is John Galt?

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                      • MFR1964
                        Detail Nut of the First Order

                        • Sep 2010
                        • 1518

                        #446
                        Mark,

                        You did a great job on rebuilding your boat, it's good to see her in the water, only question i have is, the rudder at the sail, did you make that also functional?

                        Manfred.
                        I went underground

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                        • Subculture
                          Admiral

                          • Feb 2009
                          • 2415

                          #447
                          Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named
                          Time to think brushless me thinks.

                          Hey, Andy: can we parallel two brushless motors off a common ESC?


                          David
                          No, electronically commutated motors must have one ESC per motor. Very cheap from places like Hobbyking.

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                          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                            Moderator

                            • Aug 2008
                            • 13420

                            #448
                            Thanks, Andy.

                            David
                            Who is John Galt?

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                            • greenman407
                              Admiral
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 7530

                              #449
                              Manfred, no , the sail rudder is not powered. I didnt see the point of adding extra complications when the rudder would serve no purpose. In the real Albacore the rudder was used to keep the boat from torqueing or snap rolling due to torque. Especially not necessary with contra-rotating propellors.
                              Hobby Lobby sells drop in Speed 400 sized brushless motors. Seems like the shaft size is different, but im sure something could be done.
                              IT TAKES GREAT INTELLIGENCE TO FAKE SUCH STUPIDITY!

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                              • Subculture
                                Admiral

                                • Feb 2009
                                • 2415

                                #450
                                Bin the gearbox, and go direct drive with an outrunner style motor. I guess at the moment you're running at about 5-5500RPM. Perhaps you'd like to drop down about 1kRPM? If so you'd want a motor that does about 6-700kv on 7.4 volts (2S lipo).

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