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  • DMTNT
    Commander
    • Jun 2018
    • 297

    #76
    Oh my god. Unless you fancy boxing yourself up and taking a trip to Seattle...

    Thank you, David.
    Dead men tell no tales...

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    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
      Moderator
      • Aug 2008
      • 12286

      #77
      Originally posted by DMTNT
      Oh my god. Unless you fancy boxing yourself up and taking a trip to Seattle...

      Thank you, David.
      Careful what you ask for, pal! One day of me and you'll be screaming for a restraining order from the local authorities.

      Visited Seattle while stationed at the Keyport Naval Torpedo Station. Got my first case of clap in that wonderful city by the sea. Only neat thing there was that short-legged monorail left over from the Worlds Fair.

      Missed today's post. Will get it out of here tomorrow, along with some of those magnetic coupler clips we talked about yesterday.

      David
      Who is John Galt?

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      • DMTNT
        Commander
        • Jun 2018
        • 297

        #78
        Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named

        Careful what you ask for, pal! One day of me and you'll be screaming for a restraining order from the local authorities.

        Visited Seattle while stationed at the Keyport Naval Torpedo Station. Got my first case of clap in that wonderful city by the sea. Only neat thing there was that short-legged monorail left over from the Worlds Fair.

        Missed today's post. Will get it out of here tomorrow, along with some of those magnetic coupler clips we talked about yesterday.

        David
        Hahahahahhahahahahhaha.

        There’s something from me headed your way as well. I hope you enjoy.
        Dead men tell no tales...

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        • DMTNT
          Commander
          • Jun 2018
          • 297

          #79
          I had an idea and began to tinker... Click image for larger version  Name:	IMG_1219.jpg Views:	1 Size:	23.1 KB ID:	129538
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          David, I know you've sent another care package my way, but my mind is restless. I feel like this is a better effort than my first design, but it still isn't cutting it. There remains just the tiniest pinhole leak of air between the induction tube and the rubber gasket. I'm positive it's coming from that one spot, and I'm not sure how to stamp it out. I know I can make it worse with ham-handed attempts at trying to file the end of the tube, and I can bring it back to "almost there", but I can't make it go away completely.

          I went for an all-up test in the bathtub again, and while it did better than the old setup, it's still drinking a few CC's of water into the battery compartment after a handful of successive flood/blow evolutions.

          Other thoughts I've had regarding water ingestion - I wonder if part of it might also come from when the sail and the float are just broaching the surface. It would seem like a good practice would be to blow ballast for about a few seconds to achieve positive buoyancy, then let the boat rise until the sail is out of the water before trying to fully blow the remainder of the ballast tank.

          Hmm.
          Dead men tell no tales...

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          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
            Moderator
            • Aug 2008
            • 12286

            #80
            Originally posted by DMTNT
            I had an idea and began to tinker... Click image for larger version Name:	IMG_1219.jpg Views:	1 Size:	23.1 KB ID:	129538
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            David, I know you've sent another care package my way, but my mind is restless. I feel like this is a better effort than my first design, but it still isn't cutting it. There remains just the tiniest pinhole leak of air between the induction tube and the rubber gasket. I'm positive it's coming from that one spot, and I'm not sure how to stamp it out. I know I can make it worse with ham-handed attempts at trying to file the end of the tube, and I can bring it back to "almost there", but I can't make it go away completely.

            I went for an all-up test in the bathtub again, and while it did better than the old setup, it's still drinking a few CC's of water into the battery compartment after a handful of successive flood/blow evolutions.

            Other thoughts I've had regarding water ingestion - I wonder if part of it might also come from when the sail and the float are just broaching the surface. It would seem like a good practice would be to blow ballast for about a few seconds to achieve positive buoyancy, then let the boat rise until the sail is out of the water before trying to fully blow the remainder of the ballast tank.

            Hmm.
            I love that you jumped in with your own fix. Good, aggressive problem solving.

            As a young torpedoman, working the forward torpedo room in the TRUTTA, I learned all about lapping tight the seats of brass torpedo tube valves.

            Those lessons have since been applied to the seating issue between the brass intake nipple and rubber element of the SAS snorkel valve:

            Bevel the opening of the nipple to reduce the seating surface area, then slide a piece of #400 sandpaper between the rubber disc and nipple -- grit side facing the nipple. Slide the sandpaper back and forth as you apply a very light pressure holding the rubber-sandpaper-nipple sandwich together. This will lap-fit the tip of the nipple to the surface of the rubber. Test. Sing my praises. Recommend me for sainthood. Mow my lawn.

            Also, as water is getting into the forward dry space of your SD, this points to a failed safety float-valve. Likely the float within that assembly has hung up. Invert the SD and slam it on the table with terrible, ruthless force a few times to shake the float loose. If the safety float-valve is doing it's job, no water should get by because of a flooded induction line.







            David
            Who is John Galt?

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            • DMTNT
              Commander
              • Jun 2018
              • 297

              #81
              Well I took your advice, and...

              I'll just let the tone of the music speak for itself:





              We are on our way, gentlemen.
              Dead men tell no tales...

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              • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                Moderator
                • Aug 2008
                • 12286

                #82
                Originally posted by DMTNT
                Well I took your advice, and...

                I'll just let the tone of the music speak for itself:





                We are on our way, gentlemen.
                Ah, the universal language. Success!

                David
                Who is John Galt?

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                • DMTNT
                  Commander
                  • Jun 2018
                  • 297

                  #83
                  Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named



                  Keep cuing the triumphant music, but the safety float valve in my SD is giving me cause to wonder.

                  Invert the unit & whack it on the table, as prescribed, and all is well.

                  Let it sit for the day and then go run it again and it puddles up a bit of water in the forward space.

                  I wonder - should a good thump on the head be added into every pre-mission checkout?
                  Dead men tell no tales...

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                  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                    Moderator
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 12286

                    #84
                    Originally posted by DMTNT

                    Keep cuing the triumphant music, but the safety float valve in my SD is giving me cause to wonder.

                    Invert the unit & whack it on the table, as prescribed, and all is well.

                    Let it sit for the day and then go run it again and it puddles up a bit of water in the forward space.

                    I wonder - should a good thump on the head be added into every pre-mission checkout?
                    You found the problem. The float is hanging up within the body of the safety float-valve.

                    Take it out of the SD, pop off the top of the unit (it's only secured with RTV, permitting easy access) and shave down the float till it moves within the unit without hanging up. Place a dab of silicon grease atop the rubber element, reassemble, reinstall, and test.

                    Go forth and sin no more my Son.

                    David
                    Who is John Galt?

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                    • DMTNT
                      Commander
                      • Jun 2018
                      • 297

                      #85
                      I’m sorry to ask a no-load question, but how do you take it out? I mean, I can see that it comes out one of the holes in the bottom, but how do you get the nipples and fittings off of the top?


                      EDIT - It’s threaded.
                      Last edited by DMTNT; 01-13-2019, 02:26 PM.
                      Dead men tell no tales...

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                      • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                        Moderator
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 12286

                        #86
                        Originally posted by DMTNT
                        I’m sorry to ask a no-load question, but how do you take it out? I mean, I can see that it comes out one of the holes in the bottom, but how do you get the nipples and fittings off of the top?


                        EDIT - It’s threaded.
                        Fair question. The safety float-valve is secured within the SD cylinder by a threaded 'washer' nut atop the cylinder. Remove the flexible tube between the unit and the internal nipple of the four-point manifold; remove the units securing nut; drop the unit into the ballast tank and poke at it with a tool till one end is over a flood-drain hole where it is extracted.

                        Easy-peazy.

                        David
                        Who is John Galt?

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                        • DMTNT
                          Commander
                          • Jun 2018
                          • 297

                          #87
                          Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named

                          Fair question. The safety float-valve is secured within the SD cylinder by a threaded 'washer' nut atop the cylinder. Remove the flexible tube between the unit and the internal nipple of the four-point manifold; remove the units securing nut; drop the unit into the ballast tank and poke at it with a tool till one end is over a flood-drain hole where it is extracted.

                          Easy-peazy.

                          David
                          In lieu of poking it with a tool, I rattled it around. Kind of like those apes in the beginning of 2001: A Space Odyssey. But I got it out, made the necessary modifications, and got it put back together. All before breakfast!

                          On another note, propulsion is back online. I am so thankful you sent me a multiple of rotors. These new ones have a larger diameter shaft hole in them (3/16, I believe) compared to the first one I got which had a 1/8 hole. I got a brilliant idea to use an extra oilite bearing as a sleeve. Of course I failed to notice that the bearing was a 3/16 ID. At least not until I was halfway through mangling one of my new props with a drill like the proverbial monkey with a football. D’oh.

                          Long story short - found the right size sleeve, paired it with a new rotor, placed that on the shaft, secured all three place, stuck the aft half of the shroud on with RTV and we are in business.

                          This is fun. Insane, but fun.


                          -Brady
                          Dead men tell no tales...

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                          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                            Moderator
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 12286

                            #88
                            Originally posted by DMTNT

                            In lieu of poking it with a tool, I rattled it around. Kind of like those apes in the beginning of 2001: A Space Odyssey. But I got it out, made the necessary modifications, and got it put back together. All before breakfast!

                            On another note, propulsion is back online. I am so thankful you sent me a multiple of rotors. These new ones have a larger diameter shaft hole in them (3/16, I believe) compared to the first one I got which had a 1/8 hole. I got a brilliant idea to use an extra oilite bearing as a sleeve. Of course I failed to notice that the bearing was a 3/16 ID. At least not until I was halfway through mangling one of my new props with a drill like the proverbial monkey with a football. D’oh.

                            Long story short - found the right size sleeve, paired it with a new rotor, placed that on the shaft, secured all three place, stuck the aft half of the shroud on with RTV and we are in business.

                            This is fun. Insane, but fun.


                            -Brady
                            I knew it would be a good idea to slip more than one of those rotors in the package. I make them like pop-corn. No sweat. You're sneaking up on this beast. Keep swinging!

                            David
                            Who is John Galt?

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                            • DMTNT
                              Commander
                              • Jun 2018
                              • 297

                              #89
                              Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named

                              I knew it would be a good idea to slip more than one of those rotors in the package. I make them like pop-corn. No sweat. You're sneaking up on this beast. Keep swinging!

                              David
                              It’s close. Real close.

                              Check my thread in General Discussion, I’ve already got my eye on the horizon. I hear IVY BELLS ringing and they sound like a first foray into renshape, resin casting and a whole lot of fun.

                              Damn you people.
                              Dead men tell no tales...

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                              • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                                Moderator
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 12286

                                #90
                                Originally posted by DMTNT

                                It’s close. Real close.

                                Check my thread in General Discussion, I’ve already got my eye on the horizon. I hear IVY BELLS ringing and they sound like a first foray into renshape, resin casting and a whole lot of fun.

                                Damn you people.
                                The PARCHE's been done to death. Do the SEAWOLF as configured for those 'missions'.

                                David
                                Who is John Galt?

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