1/96 Albacore (after Phase III coversion 1961)

[trout]

Thank you for sharing you knowledge!

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

I'm guessing you had the control throws set very conservatively, because that boat should easily turn in its own length. 212's have a higher aspect and smaller control surfaces, and they can really crank round on a turn.

Right you are sir. Most control surfaces working in a liquid stall at anything above 30-degree to the flow. Currently I have the throws maxing out at 15-degrees. As you know trimming a boat is a battle to find the optimum combination of CG-CB, metacentric height, throttle end-points and response, angle-keeper sensitivity, angle-keeper zero-point, and control surface throws. The scientific method demands I make one change at a time: Change, observe, make another change, and so-on if I'm to have any understanding of what's going on.

So far I have throttle, buoyancy (surfaced and submerged), and the metacentric height down. next outing I'll dial in the angle-keeper a bit tighter and will also play with its sensitivity. Only after I have all other variables locked down will I increase the throws. But, yeah, I agree, this best should cut tighter corners, Andy.

My little Type-212 does indeed turn on a dime. We'll get Scott's ALBACORE doing the same in due time.









David

[Subculture]

I'm guessing you had the control throws set very conservatively, because that boat should easily turn in its own length. 212's have a higher aspect and smaller control surfaces, and they can really crank round on a turn.

[Albion]

Can I send you a replacement servo?

David

Thanks

Very kind offer, but postage will be more than cost, I’ve got one in spares box which should fit.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Good catch,

Dave it’s the three motor WTC but with a new rear bulkhead , only 2 motors to fit better into the M1!!!

still trying to neaten the wiring up before testing in anger. To add to my woes the servo on the vent valve has died, need to pull that out.

Can I send you a replacement servo?

David

[Albion]

Edit, just noticed in the blurb-

• Nominal Capacity: 3001-3500mAh

So not much more capacity than the Sony cells, can't find a C rating. beware not all 18650 cells are equal.

Good catch,

Dave it’s the three motor WTC but with a new rear bulkhead , only 2 motors to fit better into the M1!!!

still trying to neaten the wiring up before testing in anger. To add to my woes the servo on the vent valve has died, need to pull that out.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Here’s one of my 2.5” cylinders with 3x 18650 up front. There’s a 2 cell holder and a single cell holder, total 11.1V , stated as 9900mah, even if the Chinese are flakey on their specs it’s still a hefty punch

Neat! And thanks for the tip. What boat is that SD in, sir?

David

[Subculture]

Doubtful they have anything like 9.9A of capacity, a lot of these cheaper cells have exaggerated specs, but assuming they do have the capacity, then look at what the C rating is like. The C rating of the Sony batteries is 10C, but halve that for good performance, still 15A per cell- plenty of juice even on 2S systems.

Edit, just noticed in the blurb-

• Nominal Capacity: 3001-3500mAh

So not much more capacity than the Sony cells, can't find a C rating. beware not all 18650 cells are equal.

[Albion]

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[Subculture]

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[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

I think you could squeeze in a pair of 18650's in the battery section, Dave. They go up to about 3Ah capacity, which would give you double the time. The name stands for the cell size 18mm diameter by 65mm length, in old money 0.7" diameter by 2.55" long. e.g. https://eu.nkon.nl/rechargeable/1865...18650vtc6.html

That is a great steer, Andy. I'll check those cells out. Thanks, pal.

David

[Albion]

I think you could squeeze in a pair of 18650's in the battery section, Dave. They go up to about 3Ah capacity, which would give you double the time. The name stands for the cell size 18mm diameter by 65mm length, in old money 0.7" diameter by 2.55" long. e.g. https://eu.nkon.nl/rechargeable/1865...18650vtc6.html

Here’s one of my 2.5” cylinders with 3x 18650 up front. There’s a 2 cell holder and a single cell holder, total 11.1V , stated as 9900mah, even if the Chinese are flakey on their specs it’s still a hefty punch

[Subculture]

I think you could squeeze in a pair of 18650's in the battery section, Dave. They go up to about 3Ah capacity, which would give you double the time. The name stands for the cell size 18mm diameter by 65mm length, in old money 0.7" diameter by 2.55" long. e.g. https://eu.nkon.nl/rechargeable/1865...18650vtc6.html

[trout]

I love this thing. What a great little boat. "Turning radius looks OK?" Are you nuts - that thing was turning in a few metres, just wonderful.

I chuckled when David said that. That radius is good enough for a home sized pool! That was impressive.

[HardRock]

Friction in the drive train?