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  • Ed Kirk
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    • Dec 2025
    • 69

    #31
    Click image for larger version  Name:	20260317_173605.jpg Views:	41 Size:	72.5 KB ID:	194178 I printed the main tank, both inner tube, outer shell and one end cap in single print then added 5 baffles and other end cap. I don't think the printed parts are water tight and will coat the inside with casting resin which is very slow to set and drains out leaving very little excess.
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    • Ed Kirk
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      • Dec 2025
      • 69

      #32
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ID:	194197 I am going with a simple battery, 12V NiMH (3000 MaH) and dedicated charger from Servo City. Both come with XT30 plugs and the battery has an inline fuse holder and fuse.
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      • Ed Kirk
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        • Dec 2025
        • 69

        #33
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        • Ed Kirk
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          • Dec 2025
          • 69

          #34
          Battery box slips into cylinder using threaded rod to guide and hold in place, bow bolts on threaded rod locking in place. To remove battery, remove bow and slide out battery. Click image for larger version

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          • Ed Kirk
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            • Dec 2025
            • 69

            #35
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            Finishing up and testing electronics tray, designed to slip into end of ballast tank. End cap and tray single print, keeps things tidy when complete. Getting close to getting wet.

            Just curious - is there interest enough in this project for me to post the STL's? No cost, but since Bob owns and sells the files it would be his decision. I don't plan on selling anything and some STL's would have to be purchased from Bob anyway.

            If this works out I will probably re-work the full length plans to take my modifications but use regular twin ballast tank kit since I already have one.

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            • Ed Kirk
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              • Dec 2025
              • 69

              #36
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              I don't like the yellow - it's PLA glass filled, doesn't print well. Probably stick with white with red trim.
              Last edited by Ed Kirk; 03-21-2026, 11:51 PM.

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              • Ed Kirk
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                • Dec 2025
                • 69

                #37
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                It's in the water - kitchen sink- surface looks great, a little heavy aft. Submerged is very negative, need some foam.

                OR

                May print another ballast tank and leave dry internal tank for positive buoyancy. Should an internal dry tank be low in the ballast tank or at the top, It looks like about 20% displacement in the ballast tank? I think high.

                Edit - The stern is just a little low, after thinking about it the parts in red are printed solid, I can slice them to 3 layers with about 20% infill and greatly reduce their weight. The water line is just below the top of the prop shrouds, the props should just be exposed.
                Last edited by Ed Kirk; 03-29-2026, 07:18 PM.

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                • Ed Kirk
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                  • Dec 2025
                  • 69

                  #38
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                  Printing new ballast tank, added two auxiliary tanks to displace water when flooded. they will be open (with a cap) on one end to allow for addition of lead ballast if needed.

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                  • RCSubGuy
                    Welcome to my underwater realm!

                    • Aug 2009
                    • 1994

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Ed Kirk
                    The stern is just a little low, after thinking about it the parts in red are printed solid, I can slice them to 3 layers with about 20% infill and greatly reduce their weight. The water line is just below the top of the prop shrouds, the props should just be exposed.
                    Do NOT do infill at anything less than 100%. Water absolutely will get into the voids, causing a loss of buoyancy, and then it will also drain water for a week after you get it out again.

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                    • Ed Kirk
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                      • Dec 2025
                      • 69

                      #40
                      Originally posted by RCSubGuy

                      Do NOT do infill at anything less than 100%. Water absolutely will get into the voids, causing a loss of buoyancy, and then it will also drain water for a week after you get it out again.
                      Yes, I know, I printed some shells for my clock projects and filled them with epoxy resin/lead shot and they leaked. Went to a two stage process - coated the inside with resin first then filled with resin after the first coat hardened.

                      It is FINISHED except for trimming. I made a lot of changes since I started but ended up using my original concept of a round ballast tank with dry tank inside. I decided to test system without coating with resin to see if it leaks. It was submerged in the water for a couple of hours and stayed dry.

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                      • Ed Kirk
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                        • Dec 2025
                        • 69

                        #41
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                        I did a simple pressure test on the 3D printed ballast tank/water tight compartment by using my mouth to blow into the tank - did not hold pressure. I purchased a cheap very small air compressor on Amazon and used it to pressure test tank, covered it with soapy water and it foamed up like the head on a good beer. So I coated the tank with cheap resin, this time it holds air, also filled the battery box with resin. Edit, about $5.00 material to print tank, probably cost more to power 3D printer for 8 hour print.

                        Confirmation, 3D printed parts leak, printed solid at 3mm thick! Battery box printed at 2mm thick and didn't leak resin though. Leak test with air compressor never exceeded 2.5 psi.

                        I am impressed with the little air compressor, very small and has a battery. I can't figure out how to take it apart but for $25.00 I want to see if it can be converted to blow ballast.
                        Last edited by Ed Kirk; 04-05-2026, 09:46 PM.

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                        • RCSubGuy
                          Welcome to my underwater realm!

                          • Aug 2009
                          • 1994

                          #42
                          If your 3D printed parts are leaking, you're using the wrong print settings. I've never had an issue with air leaking on 3D printed parts.

                          Increase your hot end temperature and/or decrease your print speed. Feels like the fusion of each layer is not complete.

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                          • redboat219
                            Admiral

                            • Dec 2008
                            • 3539

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Ed Kirk
                            I am impressed with the little air compressor, very small and has a battery. I can't figure out how to take it apart but for $25.00 I want to see if it can be converted to blow ballast.
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                            skippers with big boats use these to charge onboard air bottles.

                            teardown of a similar battery powered airpump/tire inflator
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                            Last edited by redboat219; 04-06-2026, 06:16 PM.
                            Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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                            • Ed Kirk
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                              • Dec 2025
                              • 69

                              #44
                              Originally posted by redboat219

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                              skippers with big boats use these to charge onboard air bottles.

                              teardown of a similar battery powered airpump/tire inflator
                              What a KNIFE! Donate to your local blood bank.

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                              • trout
                                Admiral

                                • Jul 2011
                                • 3681

                                #45
                                That video gave me ptsd, from stupid stuff I did as a kid.
                                If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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