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  • Kazzer
    *********
    • Aug 2008
    • 2848

    #46
    Here are some photos of the raft project so far.






    Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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    • trout
      Admiral
      • Jul 2011
      • 3547

      #47
      It is coming together. How does this perform? Did the larger engine work out?
      If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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      • He Who Shall Not Be Named
        Moderator
        • Aug 2008
        • 12313

        #48
        Not enough beam ... damned thing will roll over, Mike!

        M
        Who is John Galt?

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        • Scott T
          Commander
          • May 2009
          • 378

          #49
          Looks good Mike.
          Did you add a board to help the bow to plane instead of plow. More power.
          If it were tippy and you wanted to keep its narrow beam you could add some pipes under each edge
          open ended so the water could flow through while cruising no added water weight to push. Flow through ballast
          tanks. They would react to stop a list for a short time before they emptied. Might help with wave action from boat
          wakes also. That is my theory.
          If it does nothing useful it could be removed and used on the next Kazzer-Dynasty production.

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          • Kazzer
            *********
            • Aug 2008
            • 2848

            #50
            Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named
            Not enough beam ... damned thing will roll over, Mike!

            M
            Rubbish! :wink:
            Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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            • Kazzer
              *********
              • Aug 2008
              • 2848

              #51
              tried the new motor http://www.maxtool.com/us/products/XP16HPE.aspand raft (sea trials) last week and encountered several problems.

              I. When I tried to turn hard, the canopy posts got in my way. On looking closer at my video of the Chinese rafts, I realised they had no railings on the back few feet of the boat, so the tiller handle could swing out wide.
              2. The post I made from a 2" pipe flange mounted on the deck with 18" of pipe screwed into it was too high. It was also poorly secured to the deck.
              3. The motor itself had a problem with the off switch. It didn't work!

              So, with all these things going on, I got into a bit of trouble. I was having trouble swinging the raft around and so went in circles, but as my steering was hampered, the circles were getting bigger. Then the engine mounting bracket started to work loose, so I decided to switch off the motor before I drove it into the bank, I couldn't switch it off. I switched off the fuel and just kept going.
              Then the motor bracket gave out and the engine keeled over. Fortunately, it didn't fall off completely, and I was eventually able to stop the raft. I paddled it to a nearby dock, and got my pontoon out to tow it home. I was less than 100 yards from my own dock.
              It was quite a hair raising experience!

              On inspection, the 'off' switch wasn't functioning because there was a loose connection to a capacitor inside the switch box. So much for quality control! I tightened that up and the engine worked correctly, but I've now fitted the kill switch!

              As for the engine mount. I've totally redesigned that and now have a wooden transom perched right on the stern of the raft, and I'm using the supplied transom mounting bracket. The canopy has been modified to give me more maneuvering space for steering.

              I think this project would have been a lot easier with a set of plans to work with, as these modifications and alterations have taken up a lot of my time. I mentioned to my wife that we should go back to China so I could take some measurements, but the idea fell on stony ground!
              Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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              • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                Moderator
                • Aug 2008
                • 12313

                #52
                I would have paid good money to see that freak-show, Mike. Ah ... the wonders of product-testing.

                David
                Who is John Galt?

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                • MFR1964
                  Detail Nut of the First Order
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 1304

                  #53
                  To quote you David, crawl, walk and run!!!!

                  Hmm, would it be possible to make a little rc chinese raft, i wonder, i'll add it to the bucketlist.


                  Manfred.
                  I went underground

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                  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                    Moderator
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 12313

                    #54
                    If your bucket-list is anything like mine, we'll have to live to 500 to get it all done.

                    M
                    Who is John Galt?

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                    • vital.spark
                      Commander
                      • May 2010
                      • 276

                      #55
                      Mike, you have reinvented the perverbial Chinese Fire Drill! I would have paid big money to to watch the show.

                      Myron

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                      • MFR1964
                        Detail Nut of the First Order
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 1304

                        #56
                        What!!!!, are you not immortal like me!!!, i hope Mike can profide some more pics and vids to add at my archive, that flimsy looking craft looks like a nice challence to be build at scale, gotta catch that gerbill running inside my head.


                        Manfred.
                        I went underground

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                        • Kazzer
                          *********
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 2848

                          #57
                          Here is my latest set of video clips as we develop the raft!

                          Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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                          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                            Moderator
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 12313

                            #58
                            slick!......

                            m
                            Who is John Galt?

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                            • trout
                              Admiral
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 3547

                              #59
                              Big improvement in how it plows through the water. Almost ready for prime time.
                              If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                              • Slats
                                Vice Admiral
                                • Aug 2008
                                • 1776

                                #60
                                Ingenious - like the bending method.

                                J
                                John Slater

                                Sydney Australia

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