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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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    Von Hilde

    The 1/72 GATO suffers from the COD museum modifications. Your points are well taken about the mistaken employment of 'museum' fixes on the 505 that may find their way into the kit. Most would be easy fixes for the detail oriented, but getting the deck wrong (a possibility, not established yet) presents a major headache for us and a world of opportunity for the acid-etching, after-market guys. Good point, pal.

    David

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  • Von Hilde
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    U 505 has been repainted 5 times since its been in Chicago It sat outside in the weather for 50 years before they built the displey indoors. It is presently blue grey, an authentic color but, gloss acrylac enamal wasnt invented yet. Its against the law to use lead paint now days. The 505 was painted several times during the war with different color schemes. When it was captured it was dark grey and hadnt been painted for several patrols and was quite rusty. I already have a 1/72 type IXD2 and did some extensive research on 9s during the year it took me to build. Revell will do what they do to represent 505 and Im sure it will be nice, but it will be exactly like the museum version with the "Visitor friendly" modifications such as the deck. It would be nice if they offered a couple varients of the tower and armorment, to build different boats.

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  • greenman407
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    Heres a color Youtube video on it.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZL7-nclmO0&noredirect=1

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  • greenman407
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    Sounds good to me. Try this article. Knowing you Leelan, youve probably already seen it.http://www.artitec.nl/downloads/inst...at_colours.pdf
    Last edited by greenman407; 07-02-2013, 01:20 PM.

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  • modelnut
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    The paint job looks different to what I see even in the black-and-white films. The topside grey looks too light. Could it be that when she was restored they just grabbed the US fleet-boat equivalent regardless of whether it matched or not?

    The 505 will be coming out in 72 scale later this year from Revell. Shall we start our research now?

    - Leelan
    Last edited by modelnut; 07-02-2013, 11:15 AM.

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  • modelnut
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    Attack And Capture: The Story Of U Boat 505

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVKsRE0eZng

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  • modelnut
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    Colorized shot of the capture of U 505.

    - Leelan

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  • Von Hilde
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    The Blohm und Voss 138 flying boat "Sea Dragon" did quite a bit of resupply and recon missions for the North sea boats.

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  • greenman407
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  • Von Hilde
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    My new friend Selcuk Kolay, from the Turkish Maritime Museum in Istanbul is the guy who found the 3 U boats (U19 U20 U23)that were scuttled in the Black Sea off the northern Turkish coast. The other 3 (U9 U18 U24) were scuttled off the Rumanian coast and raised by the Russians after the war. They were commisioned into the Russian Navy and used for target practice in the late 40s and sunk again. The 3 that were found in Turkey are all still in good shape and may possiblly be brought up in the future for restoration. He just sent me some pictures of the boats after they arrived in Istanbul and were re fitted. Click image for larger version

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ID:	81950U 23 in istanbul 1943 (note the olympic circles on tower and no limber holes added along amidships gunnels, and the late style forward flak mount, and the single 2cm aft)Click image for larger version

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ID:	81952U 23 painting( note there is no added ammo can on the tower) Perhaps when I get the dive pictures of U 23 they may show the extra cans. However the 23 is in 50 m of water and will require an ROV for pictures, which are on hold due to finances and government problems at this time. U 20s dive pictures taken by Taner Aksoy are in more shallow water compaired to U 23s remains at over 160 ft, and have more light and reveal quite good detailClick image for larger version

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ID:	81953u20 stbd side con looking up from deck at the RDFantenna forward of the tower mounted position. Mr Aksoy has about a dozen pictures on his site of various views of the wreck in about 80ft 2 miles north of the city of Agva in the provence of Sakarya, Turkey. He took them back in 09. He had to quit the dive due to weather but was schedualed to return this spring, Not sure if he did yet due to the current strife over there. Im waiting on a reply, at this time, from Mr Kolay, the director of operations.
    Last edited by Von Hilde; 06-30-2013, 08:47 AM.

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  • greenman407
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    A recent find. U275 with a huge array of AAClick image for larger version

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  • Von Hilde
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    Thats an awsome book. I dont think Ive seen any of those pictures published before. and the art work is great. Its definately a "Must have" for my bookshelf

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  • greenman407
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    VonHilde, did you see the post under "Books that I have read" about the Milchcow book?

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  • Von Hilde
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    Somebody here was wondering about the, torpedo tube launched, style mines. The picture of u 151 loading one on the crane. They would deploy and float vertically, with an anchor and chain that released from the back.

    The other type mines were deployed from the round water-tight cans on decks of most boats, and in the tops of some ballast tanks on the type IXs. Those tubular types were deployed from some of the IXDs with the "wasp waist" fore-decks as well. They could just roll them off the side.

    When the need for the freighter boats took precedent over the mine layer duties late in the war, all the IX-D2s with that mod that were still afloat were used for cargo and spys.
    Last edited by Kazzer; 06-30-2013, 04:49 AM. Reason: sp

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