The Great British M1

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  • toppack
    Rear Admiral
    • Nov 2008
    • 1124

    #76
    When there's absolutely no room for a tiller arm at rudder you may want to consider a Timing-Belt. There are teeth on the belt and in pulleys, so there is No slippage.
    They are made in many sizes, including very small, like is needed in sub models.
    The actual tiller is mounted further forward in hull, with a pulley on it's post, then the belt goes aft to the rudder post and it's pulley. The pulleys are very light weight aluminum, so this system doesn't add much weight but are very strong and reliable.
    Here's a link to a company that sells belts and pulleys:
    http://www.motionindustries.com/moti...ductSearch.jsp

    Note: when trying this Link, directly to belt sub-catagory, it was extremly slow for some reason. you may have to go to their homepage and do a search by catagory.
    Last edited by toppack; 05-19-2009, 12:36 PM.
    Rick L.
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    • Nuke Power
      Banned
      • Dec 2008
      • 277

      #77
      you can also get them at mcmastercarr

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      • Kazzer
        *********
        • Aug 2008
        • 2850

        #78
        The rudder assembly isn't my real concern with this model. Although there isn't much height in the Ducks Tail, it is wide enough to place a servo arm to one side.


        I decided to fix the conning tower today. Trimmed off the excess around the edges and then sanded them flat on a piece of 120 grit paper.

        I taped the two halves together using electricians tape as it stretches well and pulls the parts together. I mixed up some epoxy resin and coated the inside along the joint, then mixed some CABOSIL into the remaining resin until it was a paste, then brushed a dab or two of that into the joint. The thickened resin fille the crevices pretty well. Tomorrow, I'll remove the tape and give the part a light sanding to remove spew etc.
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        • Kazzer
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          • Aug 2008
          • 2850

          #79
          Here is the M1 model up against the Revell VII. Both at 1:72 scale.

          And another new photo of the M1 gun.
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          • Kazzer
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            • Aug 2008
            • 2850

            #80
            A good photo of a museum model of the M1, showing a close-up of the gun. I'd love to get shots of the entire model.
            Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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            • Kazzer
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              • Aug 2008
              • 2850

              #81
              Some M Class facts:

              In 1924 all three completed members of the class were used to test hull
              to reduce the visibility of submarines from aircraft

              —M1 was painted grey-green, M2 dark grey whilst M3 was painted dark blue.

              More data here
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              • toppack
                Rear Admiral
                • Nov 2008
                • 1124

                #82
                Originally posted by kazzer
                Some M Class facts:

                In 1924 all three completed members of the class were used to test hull
                to reduce the visibility of submarines from aircraft

                —M1 was painted grey-green, M2 dark grey whilst M3 was painted dark blue.
                I wonder about the Test results? Did they ever decide which Color was Best?
                Rick L.
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                * Asking Questions is a 'Good Thing',
                Since Learning is Always a 'Good Thing' *

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                • Tachikaze
                  Lieutenant, Junior Grade
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 20

                  #83
                  Since my M-1 will no longer be used for combat, I would like to scale her up.
                  What source are you guys using for the sail and deck information?

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                  • Kazzer
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                    • Aug 2008
                    • 2850

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Tachikaze
                    Since my M-1 will no longer be used for combat, I would like to scale her up.
                    What source are you guys using for the sail and deck information?

                    We have 1:144 scale plans by J Lambert. I order them from UK occasionally. If you want a set, I think they are approx $20
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                    • Tachikaze
                      Lieutenant, Junior Grade
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 20

                      #85
                      I am looking more for photos, I have the plans that were used for construction of the boat, and they pretty much show me what I have.

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                      • Tachikaze
                        Lieutenant, Junior Grade
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 20

                        #86
                        I am taking my M1, that was originally built for combat, and making her more pretty.
                        The gun is out of scale for the 1/72nd scale boat, done so as to hide the 1/4" ball bearing gun.
                        For a lack of what one calls it, where the gun exits the superstructure, there are what appear to be two "bulges" that decrease in size until the gun exits them. Can some one give me the length of the gun from where it exits the " bulges" and the OD at the base of the gun and the OD of the gun at its muzzle. And what scale those measurements are taken from.
                        Thanks

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                        • Kazzer
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                          • Aug 2008
                          • 2850

                          #87
                          I found a drawing of the gun used on the M1, an Armstrong Whitworth 12 inch /40 naval gun



                          Here is a drawing of the gun.

                          At 1:72 scale, I figure the model's gun should be 6.3"

                          Now, all I need is a good lathe operator to turn one up in plastic etc. (Hint -hint)
                          Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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                          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                            Moderator

                            • Aug 2008
                            • 13394

                            #88
                            Now, all I need is a good lathe operator to turn one up in plastic etc. (Hint -hint)

                            I'm busy, damit!
                            Who is John Galt?

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                            • Nuke Power
                              Banned
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 277

                              #89
                              perhaps I will make one just so I can post pictrues of what you cant have mike!

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                              • Kazzer
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                                • Aug 2008
                                • 2850

                                #90
                                Originally posted by Rogue Sub
                                perhaps I will make one just so I can post pictrues of what you cant have mike!
                                Hmmm!

                                First one to get me a finished, turned gun that I can mold from gets a new ADF
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