The Great British M1

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Ramesh isn't Filipino.

I have no idea though, he's such a mild mannered fellow.

Oh, nuts!!!!

You're right! I was thinking of another poster here. Sorry Ramesh -- though it was a compliment.

(check twice, write once ... duh!)

Sorry about that, folk's.

David,

[Slats]

Two reasons I see why we should not produce submarine hull kits to cater to the BB gun shooters out there:

One point Mr. Caswell addressed already: that the BB shooter's don't/can't/won't appreciate the complexities or peculiarities of the r/c submarine as configured for real-world combat.

The other point is the type of activity and type of people who engage in BB shooting. Watch such an event, I dare you! You'll see non-stop banging away with BB guns mounted aboard poorly crafted, un-scale like running r/c ships, narrated with primal grunts and roars issued by the safety-goggle sporting participants.

And who's behind the transmitter stick of one of those shot-up, awful looking model warships? ... I'll tell you who: It'll be a tobacco dribbling, loud-mouthed, gun hugging, wife-beating, illiterate, yellow-toothed, bible-thumping, snake-holding, red-neck sporting a back-wards turned NASCAR ball-cap, who gets an erection each time the word 'shoot' is uttered within ear shot.

No thanks.

I'll stick with real scale modeling. And I recommend we configure the M1 kit for real scale modeling enthusiasts.

David,

What he said, -
and yes the models at these events do look my three year olds craft efforts
J

[Albion]

And who's behind the transmitter stick of one of those shot-up, awful looking model warships? ... I'll tell you who: It'll be a tobacco dribbling, loud-mouthed, gun hugging, wife-beating, illiterate, yellow-toothed, bible-thumping, snake-holding, red-neck sporting a back-wards turned NASCAR ball-cap, who gets an erection each time the word 'shoot' is uttered within ear shot.

Dont hold back Dave!


In regards to a BB actually striking below water level, has anyone seen mythbusters where they disprove you cant get shot under water? Basically they tried many rifles from a civil war musket (if i remember correctly) to the most powerful rifle available today. More than a foot underwater you are safe. The high velocity rifle was so fast that the bullet disintegrated on contact with the water surface. Based on these findings a BB gun will have no effect on a submerged vessel (even just a fraction of an inch below the waterline methinks)

[herrmill]

So who's doing the photo etch for this beast? ;)

[Slats]

What he said, -
and yes the models at these events do look my three year olds craft efforts
J

Actually just seen some web photos - my kid is way more talented than that. Probably smells better too.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

So who's doing the photo etch for this beast? ;)

I'll do the art-work and initial acid-etching for the evaluation builds, then will farm out the production work.

David,

[herrmill]

Cool! This is sounding more exciting each day. I'll drink to THAT!

[Albion]

Just realised i got the BBC documentary about finding the M1 on VCR tape, must re connect the player. Thats a sexy paint job on it Crack That WHip

http://www.tvfactual.co.uk/journeys_to_the_bottom.htm

[Tachikaze]

I have the M-1 in 1/72nd scale. Built by the Sainted Cliff Shaw

[toppack]

That is a Great looking model!

[Tachikaze]

Cliffy was very talented, but this ship frustrated the hell out of him, he had so much trouble in keeping her trimmed. She originally was armed with a 1/4" CO2 gun, which I did not acquire. I have found that his big problem is that the boat is way too heavy, and I am in the process of decreasing the weight of her lead keel.

[toppack]

Yes, it appears to be a very Narrow hull shape. Lets hope it's not still too top heavy with the gun removed?

[ShadowPeo]

I was never a great fan of 'rules' in war. "Stand there in line men, while they mow you down", somehow doesn't sit well. Submarine warfare was and still is 'sneaky'. I like it!

Call it cheating if you like. Those warship guys have had the pond to themselves for too long!

Cheating is only the loosers word for being outsmarted, oh and I cannot wait for this one.

[Mankster]

I have always been interested in this sub and am hoping to build one in a larger scale. Talk of a PE set has got me interested in this 1/72 model so I look forward to how it turns out.
It wasn't a BB gun I wanted to add, more one of those airsoft plastic ball things fitted to Mauri/HengLong tanks. They sell em in toy shops over here so I am guessing its not going to hurt anyone or put a scratch on anything. Just for the challange to geting it to elevate & recoil and for novelty; much the same reason we want working torpedos.

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Ramesh

[Tachikaze]

Here are a couple of pictures of the innards of the M1 made by Cliff Shaw that I now have in my possession.
From fore to aft you have:
CO2 tank for ballast tanks and 1/4" gun ( no longer installed)
Foreward ballast tank
Foreward diveplane servo
Trim Tank controller
APC connected to the foreward planes
Above the TTC is the ballast control servo
Trim tank
Above the trim tank is the fail safe
5v voltage regular sets on the trim tank
ESC
Above the ESC is the receiver
R10 pink foam seperating the battery pack
pair of Maxon motors
Aft ballast tank
I'll drink to THAT!