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  • trout
    Admiral
    • Jul 2011
    • 3547

    Thanks Alec for the confirmation and knowing we have the same issues.
    Today there was not the time to get out to the water, but I did re-think the water reclamation system. It was tiny and would not hold a lot of water. The plumbing to get it to the bottom of the sub-driver did not appeal to me. So, plan two.

    I created a lopsided pyramid, with one side being at 90 degrees. No, that is not accurate, it is a triangular slope. Oh here are some pictures, you tell me.
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    The 90 degree side faces outward and the slope side goes up against the motor.
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    On one end of the brass tube, two scalloped edges were put in. Opposite each other. The thinking is the rush of air/water coming in, I wanted it directed sideways. The other end of the tube was rounded.
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    Here is a test fit with the hole for the tube drilled in.
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    Made a quick drill guide for locating the vent hole.
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    Put the vent/overflow hole in.
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    Sealed the reservoir with RTV silicon rubber.
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    Now it is time to let it dry.
    If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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    • trout
      Admiral
      • Jul 2011
      • 3547

      Finished by putting a tube between the float valve and the reservoir.
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      I matched the float valve's tube leaving the top with the tube going into the reservoir. They are 3/32", but the grey hose id seems to be 3/32" so the fit is not tight. I put RTV to seal it, not confident it will hold. If it does not I will put a 1/8" od tube over the nipple of the float valve and the stem of the reservoir.
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      Since I had the RTV silicon out and had some left over, I smeared some over the center plug that David said could leak.
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      Next is the rudder disconnecting issue. For that I put on the heavier duty connectors, but I have another idea using the existing Klik-ons that I will put down as a future project.
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      Last thing on my repair list is the sail plane. I put this off because I do not have a clear idea how or what to fix for sure.
      If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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      • trout
        Admiral
        • Jul 2011
        • 3547

        Tested the rudder and the beefier connectors solved that issue. The sail plane is another story. There are two variables from when it was working, one the drop and two the sail linkages were disassembled when it was painted. So somewhere in there it is not happy. I can get it to connect, I can feel it connect and for a short time work, but if I go hard in either direction it seems to disconnect or lose the control of the plane. Then I thought maybe I have too much throw and that is causing it to disconnect. Been playing with that. Still nothing consistent.
        I may have to redo the sail connectors so that they meet under the hatch. Then open the hatch up so I can see the connection. I do not like working blind.

        So I will sleep on it and try again tomorrow. Any suggestions?
        Last edited by trout; 11-14-2013, 10:16 AM. Reason: Spell checker
        If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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        • greenman407
          Admiral
          • Feb 2009
          • 7530

          I was thinking that the magnetic connection at the sail plane itself is unnecessary since the magnet is to make it easier to disconnect and connect during setup. That connection doesnt need to come apart or together for setup. If we eliminate that then there is one less problem. I was thinking about taking the magnet out and putting a small short screw in it and attach a clevis like you get at a hobby store and attach that to your rod or cable. Also, I dont have mine to that point yet but the sail plane pushrod, the way it exits the Subdriver, bends 90 degrees and then bends another 90 degrees can give a lot of "Flex" that might not be good.
          IT TAKES GREAT INTELLIGENCE TO FAKE SUCH STUPIDITY!

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          • trout
            Admiral
            • Jul 2011
            • 3547

            Agreed. Mark, that magnet I put a brass tab on it and it stays put. It is the aft connector where the issues are happening.
            If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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            • greenman407
              Admiral
              • Feb 2009
              • 7530

              I think it was on the Gato cylinder that David supplied a "Bellcrank" mechanism, if I remember correctly that we might be able to acquire for that situation. If not we could make our own, it just wouldnt be as pretty as Daves.....Im thinking.
              IT TAKES GREAT INTELLIGENCE TO FAKE SUCH STUPIDITY!

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              • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                Moderator
                • Aug 2008
                • 12290

                I supplied the 'dumb-bell' with the 1/72 SKIPJACK SD for a reason, guys!

                M
                Who is John Galt?

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                • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                  Moderator
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 12290

                  I supplied the 'dumb-bell' with the 1/72 SKIPJACK SD for a reason, guys!

                  M
                  Who is John Galt?

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                  • trout
                    Admiral
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 3547

                    This dumb-bell did not get a dumbbell. I still do not get how that would solve my issue. Call me dumb-bell or thick or any number of names, I am missing something (aside from some brain cells).
                    If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                      Moderator
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 12290

                      Bad Santa sent you a package today.

                      Break out the Bonco Type-23 kit, pal. See if you can get that beast working better than I've been able to.

                      M
                      Who is John Galt?

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                      • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                        Moderator
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 12290

                        Bad Santa sent you a package today.

                        Break out the Bonco Type-23 kit, pal. See if you can get that beast working better than I've been able to.

                        M
                        Who is John Galt?

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                        • greenman407
                          Admiral
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 7530

                          Dave, whats a dumb bell?
                          IT TAKES GREAT INTELLIGENCE TO FAKE SUCH STUPIDITY!

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                          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                            Moderator
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 12290

                            Originally posted by greenman407
                            Dave, whats a dumb bell?
                            OK, I'm a dumb-ass: It's marked, 'dog-bone'. What I meant was 'dumb-bell'. Duh!

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                            Who is John Galt?

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                            • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                              Moderator
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 12290

                              Originally posted by greenman407
                              Dave, whats a dumb bell?
                              OK, I'm a dumb-ass: It's marked, 'dog-bone'. What I meant was 'dumb-bell'. Duh!

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                              Who is John Galt?

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                              • alad61
                                Commander
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 476

                                I'm pretty sure it's the little resin piece that face on looks like a figure 8. It goes on the pushrod for the sail planes from the servo at the sd end and the push rod to the actual planes connects to that. I broke mine so I jury rigged an alternative. Also I had to grind off the raised rib on the top hull above the back end of the sd as it occasionally snagged the klik ons.
                                Cheers,
                                Alec.


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