My first build, and I need help!

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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
    Moderator

    • Aug 2008
    • 13420

    #151
    Very well don, Jay.

    You likely used K&S 1/16" brass rod as the pin. That stuff is an alloy of copper and zinc known as, 'cartridge brass'. Cartridge brass (sometimes K&S let's other alloys of brass into their production system) is supposed to be the only alloy K&S uses in the manufacture of their tube and solid stock. Anyway ... cartridge brass is kinda hard as the various copper alloys go. I

    use 'machine brass' for such pins, Jay.

    The small lead content in machine brass makes it more malleable than cartridge brass; easier to peen back the pin ends without damaging the harder square brass tube.

    So ... there!

    David
    Who is John Galt?

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    • beeryboats
      Lieutenant Commander
      • Jun 2011
      • 124

      #152
      Thanks David. Trout ( aka Tom ) and I have been trading tools and info and I see by his posting he had a little problem with the shaft bearings. I was almost in the same boat as I had to thin down the hull pretty good, but I got it done. I see in his photos that he has the gas saver. I guess I wasn't aware of that option at the time I ordered the kit. Am I going to regret it? I do have the snort but was wondering how the manifold was attached to the top of the balast tank. I guess I need to drill a hole for the manifold and glue it in place? I also have the push rod guides that need to be glued to the lexan tube. Is the co-hesive going to work for the lexan?
      Jay

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      • trout
        Admiral

        • Jul 2011
        • 3658

        #153
        Jay,
        I can not tell you whether I am glad I have the gas saver or not. Mine did not come with a SNORT system (I purchased my WTC from someone who was not going to build the Gato in an R/C configuration and never used it), so I am adding that in. I prefer that ability to dive and surface as many times.
        Peace,
        Tom
        If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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        • beeryboats
          Lieutenant Commander
          • Jun 2011
          • 124

          #154
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          I hope someone can help me identify my leftover parts. The stuff in the bag I'm pretty sure is if I wanted operational torpedos (?) or to detail the bow. The four items in the front really have me stumped. I now know for sure I'm missing a few important parts, and I will shoot Mike an email about that in a moment. The bone looking thing to the left has set screws in each hole like it's for push rods maybe?
          Last edited by Kazzer; 12-10-2011, 01:02 PM.

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          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
            Moderator

            • Aug 2008
            • 13420

            #155
            Left to right:

            Klystron Relay, Hydro-spanner, Flux Capacitor, Interoceter (no longer available in kit form)

            (bow/sail plane dumb-bell SD attachement point, bow plane torque tube collar, 1/16" pushrod seal, forward bulkhead (end-cap) wire releif block)

            David
            Who is John Galt?

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            • beeryboats
              Lieutenant Commander
              • Jun 2011
              • 124

              #156
              What are these two for?


              (bow/sail plane dumb-bell SD attachement point, bow plane torque tube collar,
              David[/QUOTE]

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              • beeryboats
                Lieutenant Commander
                • Jun 2011
                • 124

                #157
                Ok, I did my research and Mike only includes three pairs of magnetic couplers. You need six, so why not include them? I also ordered two more servos. Nothing I had in my aircraft micro servo selection would fit the the sub driver. Hard to believe, but it's true. I did get the rudder and rear planes hooked up and in the hull. I ended up adding a touch of Rage filler forward of the rear planes pivot point so the screw would have something to bite into. The hardware store had #2 countersunk wood screws and #4-40 macine screws. I still have to see which way I'm gonna go with that. I'll be sure to thread the hole then hit it with thin CA to firm up the treads in the filler. With nothing else to do I started work on the sail. The forward gun stantions in the kit are a joke. They broke just cutting them from the tree. I may have to scratch build something for that. What has someone else done for the dainty railings?

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                • trout
                  Admiral

                  • Jul 2011
                  • 3658

                  #158
                  Jay,
                  I am going to send you the die tomorrow. Do you want me to put in some 2-56 screws for the rear planes? I have about a hundred of them :) I also have some very fine piano wire (may add realistic rust) or brass if you want to build your own railings. Let me know! From sites I have visited, many rebuild them in wire (brass usually).
                  Peace,
                  Tom
                  If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                  • beeryboats
                    Lieutenant Commander
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 124

                    #159
                    That would be awesome! Much appreciated. I wonder where I can buy some brass stantions? I guess I'll google it. I read your post about all the shafts bent and twisted. Yes you need to taper and a lathe is the best way to go.
                    Thanks,
                    Jay

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                    • beeryboats
                      Lieutenant Commander
                      • Jun 2011
                      • 124

                      #160
                      Hooray, my servos showed up in the mail. But the magnetic connectors are back ordered. I wonder when I'll see them? At least I can start on the sub driver and get some rigging done this weekend.
                      Jay

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                      • beeryboats
                        Lieutenant Commander
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 124

                        #161
                        David, how much stern plane travel do I need for the leveler?

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                        • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                          Moderator

                          • Aug 2008
                          • 13420

                          #162
                          No more than 35-degrees each way. 20-degrees is fine.

                          David
                          Who is John Galt?

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                          • beeryboats
                            Lieutenant Commander
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 124

                            #163
                            I'm limited to about 3/8" up travel but plenty of down. I would think that would be enough. The forward planes are the main controls, while the aft are for the leveler, right?

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                            • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                              Moderator

                              • Aug 2008
                              • 13420

                              #164
                              Right...........
                              Who is John Galt?

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                              • beeryboats
                                Lieutenant Commander
                                • Jun 2011
                                • 124

                                #165
                                Is 3/8" enough?

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