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  • HardRock
    Vice Admiral
    • Mar 2013
    • 1609

    #31

    Have a look at the front of the sail in this photograph. o Not vertical - its raked!


    I have two sets of plans that have two different sails. One is high and thin; the other is short and fat. Which one is correct?

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    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
      Moderator
      • Aug 2008
      • 12253

      #32
      Both. There were variations within the class.

      David
      Who is John Galt?

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      • Tirfing
        Lieutenant, Junior Grade
        • Jan 2017
        • 66

        #33
        The Zwezda 1/350 model of the November contains two sails that are very comparable in shape to the ones you have produced. As I am no friend of ICloud at the moment my mobile camera is blocked. If any one out there has the said kit maybe you can take a Picture? / Fredrik

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        • JHapprich
          Captain
          • Oct 2017
          • 712

          #34
          The shorter sail is the right one for 627 although 627 and 627A have nearly identical sails only differing in the sonar assembly. 627 A sails are slightly less streamlined, the profile courve of the sails roof is more straight. The high sail is of projekt 645/k-27, a november-subclass that looked different in many ways.
          Jörg

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          • HardRock
            Vice Admiral
            • Mar 2013
            • 1609

            #35
            Thanks Jörg. I'll make both and see which I prefer later on.

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            • JHapprich
              Captain
              • Oct 2017
              • 712

              #36
              Ahh, see the pictures now.wouldnt show up before.front sail 627, background 627A but a little too high and too thin

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              • JHapprich
                Captain
                • Oct 2017
                • 712

                #37
                Both need a sharp edge on the sternward end.they look like a plane in horizontal profile

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                • HardRock
                  Vice Admiral
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 1609

                  #38
                  Originally posted by JHapprich
                  Ahh, see the pictures now.wouldnt show up before.front sail 627, background 627A but a little too high and too thin
                  Yes. I thought so too. I took the shape of the sectioned drawing that you sent me. Quite thin and quite high. Also quite square.

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                  • HardRock
                    Vice Admiral
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 1609

                    #39
                    Slowly, slowly - makee November.

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                    • HardRock
                      Vice Admiral
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 1609

                      #40
                      There isn't much to this boat at present; just getting the rear end sorted out and making the sail look slightly better. At the moment its built to the dimensions given in the plan but I am dubious about its accuracy. That is compounded by the many versions of sail used on this class.

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                      • HardRock
                        Vice Admiral
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 1609

                        #41
                        I'm putting some detail on the sail to see how it looks. The plans that I have are not so great and a lot of the detail on this sail is lifted from photographs. Still not entirely happy with the shape. It looks a bit too long.

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                        • DrSchmidt
                          Captain
                          • Apr 2014
                          • 919

                          #42


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                          • HardRock
                            Vice Admiral
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1609

                            #43
                            Thanks. I have all those and they are all inaccurate. I have a small portion of the tail which is accurate, however it is incomplete. No doubt Merriman's third law will ensure that the accurate plans only turn up once I am finished.

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                            • DMTNT
                              Commander
                              • Jun 2018
                              • 297

                              #44
                              Originally posted by HardRock
                              I'm putting some detail on the sail to see how it looks. The plans that I have are not so great and a lot of the detail on this sail is lifted from photographs. Still not entirely happy with the shape. It looks a bit too long.

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                              Really? I know it is not the most clear photo, but at the top of the page, there is that black and white shot of a November from above, and that sail looks plenty long. Especially compared to yours.



                              How does it look with a nose on the boat? Even just a rough shape so you can see it in complete overall length. I know you were chasing perfection, but it all looks great so far!

                              -Brady
                              Dead men tell no tales...

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                              • HardRock
                                Vice Admiral
                                • Mar 2013
                                • 1609

                                #45
                                A bit more work on the sail today. After 39 degrees yesterday; today is cool and rainy. Weird weather but good for pottering around in the shed.

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                                A few more holes, hatches and such and it looks half decent.

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