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  • November Holiday

    I was looking at some files that Gantu sent to me the other day and doing some idle calculations on the November. The hull width at 1/96 scale is 82.29mm and, I happened to have a piece of 82mm drain pipe in the shed. I've never built a pipe boat before but I decided to give it a go. Some plywood templates, a bit of glue and a lot of sanding later - this emerged. Might actually work out too.

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  • #2
    Looking good!will you make it a 627 or 627A?

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    • #3
      The only plans that I have that are half decent are for the 627A. I like to look of that lower sonar dome as well so I guess that it will be the 'A' version.

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      • #4
        You *******!

        Just when I thought I was out, you drag my fat-ass back in!

        Must have one! Who do I have to kill to get one of these NOVEMBER's?

        Can I give you a hand with the propellers, masts, and control surfaces and SD? I assume you will make the sail a part of the upper hull?

        David
        "... well, that takes care of Jorgenson's theory!"

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        • #5
          You bet you can. How luckey was it to find an old drain pipe that is EXACTLY the right size? Not sure about the sail yet; I'm still dealing with the lower stern transition to the rudder post. I don't have a good photograph of that at this stage. I'll send you a set of the plans that I have so that we are working off the same datum. Hurrah!

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          • #6
            That's incredible luck. I've always liked something about that old boat. I can only imagine what a nightmare it must've been to sail on a 1st gen Soviet SSN. Can't wait to see this come together!
            Dead men tell no tales...

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            • #7
              Originally posted by HardRock View Post
              You bet you can. How luckey was it to find an old drain pipe that is EXACTLY the right size? Not sure about the sail yet; I'm still dealing with the lower stern transition to the rudder post. I don't have a good photograph of that at this stage. I'll send you a set of the plans that I have so that we are working off the same datum. Hurrah!
              Standing by, sir.

              David
              "... well, that takes care of Jorgenson's theory!"

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              • #8
                Hey hardrock! If i understand correctly, you are talking about the transition from that "fin" on the upper stern to the lower rudder section? It is of a more classic design, the fin part features a triangular diameter followed by a slight inward pull before continuing to follow the straight line of the rudder. I can honestly say i am a November "groupie". If you like, pm me your the construction plan you are using so i could look over the details. Regards, Jörg

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                • #9
                  Papa around November.

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                  Had the Good fortune to visit Scott today. He probably would have preferred to be in the pool instead of talking to me
                  however It was good to catch up. This November is going to be great. It's a nice size I just wish it was a bit wider to take the
                  cylinder I have for the Papa.

                  Dave H





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                  • #10
                    About the same size as my november. Hardrock, thx for the blueprint. Know that one, some errors.ill see that i have another plan sent to you
                    Joerg

                    Ps from what i can see so far, the stern upper deck needs to bend slightly down towards the waterline on the last half just before the aft fin. 2nd, the rudder excess needs to be higher, the model looks too much like type xxi. November has a high but rather short rudder, rectangular, not square.
                    Last edited by JHapprich; 12-30-2018, 07:12 AM.

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                    • #11
                      I will sit back and watch the fun as this gets built. I continue to learn from you all. Thanks for posting your build!
                      If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JHapprich View Post
                        About the same size as my november. Hardrock, thx for the blueprint. Know that one, some errors.ill see that i have another plan sent to you
                        Joerg

                        Ps from what i can see so far, the stern upper deck needs to bend slightly down towards the waterline on the last half just before the aft fin. 2nd, the rudder excess needs to be higher, the model looks too much like type xxi. November has a high but rather short rudder, rectangular, not square.
                        Thanks Mate. Those sections or the rear are invaluable. I can see from them that the rear slops down just a little and that the plan view, as depicted in the drawings that I have is all wrong - too narrow overall and wrong front end entirely. The rudder hole is only half cut out; I didn't want to go ahead and start removing foam befor I had a reasonably accurate idea of what the stern really looked like. I'm quite capable of messing it up on my own so I might as well start with real drawings!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by HardRock View Post

                          Thanks Mate. Those sections or the rear are invaluable. I can see from them that the rear slops down just a little and that the plan view, as depicted in the drawings that I have is all wrong - too narrow overall and wrong front end entirely. The rudder hole is only half cut out; I didn't want to go ahead and start removing foam befor I had a reasonably accurate idea of what the stern really looked like. I'm quite capable of messing it up on my own so I might as well start with real drawings!
                          Merriman's Law: The good source documentation only shows up once the project is well underway.

                          David
                          "... well, that takes care of Jorgenson's theory!"

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                          • #14
                            Yep. It sure seems that way. Jörg sent me a GREAT drawing of the rear showing the appropriate cross sections. Needless to say I'm in modicication mode right now. I went down to the local post shack (it really doesn't qualify as a proper post office) this morning to send off the drawings, including Jörg's new ones, to you but the bloody post shack is closed for the postman's picknic!!! Who knew that popstmen - and postgirls I guess, had picknics? Anyway the're open next year so I'll get it to you soonish.

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                            • #15
                              So there has been a bit of re-planning since Jörg came up with the nice new plans. There will be a new and substantial keel and a much slimmer rear end. The nose is roughed out and looks to be about the right shape.

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