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  • Peter W
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    • May 2011
    • 509

    #31
    I watched a video a few years ago with the Zvezda 1/350 scale Oscar II darting around a swimming pool. I imagine only a pool or Gin clear, very still water will allow such a small sub. I bought 1 when they came out with the wondering of whether it was posssible as I did also with the 1/350 Dragon Typhoon. Possibly best described as a technical exercise ?

    Peter

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    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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      • Aug 2008
      • 12290

      #32
      Originally posted by JHapprich
      Really impressive, David! But what is such a tiny model good for? Id certainly NEVER put that in a lake...
      Absolutely, sir! Pool toys only.

      David
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      • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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        • Aug 2008
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        #33
        Originally posted by DMTNT

        After I posted, I kept digging through the forum history and caught a post where you mentioned that the SD comes with a couple of extra seals. Keeping in the theme of things I pounded the desk with my fist and exclaimed, “You son of a b*tch!” with a wide smile - ala Jack Ryan.

        On a slightly more serious note, thank you for your kind offer of a replacement end cap. I may still take you up on one some day, but I decided to be bold. Never underestimate the power (or blind luck) of a determined man and his 12v Milwaukee drill. I bored out the offending seal, tapped a new one into its place, and sealed up the end with a touch of RTV. I think the gods decided to be merciful, and I now once again have a functioning 4th servo in the WTC. I’ll leak check it tomorrow, but I’m encouraged.

        Thank you for the help.


        -Brady
        LOL. Glad it worked out for you, sir. Keep us informed.

        David
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        • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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          • Aug 2008
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          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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            David
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            • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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              • Aug 2008
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              • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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                • Aug 2008
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                #37


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                • DMTNT
                  Commander
                  • Jun 2018
                  • 297

                  #38
                  Those are adorable!

                  lol
                  Dead men tell no tales...

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                  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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                    • Aug 2008
                    • 12290

                    #39
                    Originally posted by DMTNT
                    Those are adorable!

                    lol
                    adorable?......
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                    • DMTNT
                      Commander
                      • Jun 2018
                      • 297

                      #40
                      Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named

                      adorable?......
                      Only teasing! More like damned impressive. How's that?

                      While we're at it, I have a question for the headmaster... Do you recall when you fabricated the impeller for the 1/144 Seawolf what the overall diameter was? I finally hooked up my setup and was beyond pleased to see it works, but I'm curious how my prop compares to one that's proven. Mine was designed by a fellow from Spain on Shapeways who intended it for RC use, but to my knowledge has never tested it. Attached are a few 3D photos. It measures 35mm and is cast in bronze. I've done some hunting for 35mm props / impellers, and while there are a couple out there, the options aren't great. I'm size limited due to the dimensions of the impeller shroud, which is also a 3D printed component. I could use the kit supplied impeller shroud and a slightly bigger prop, but it would require some redesign of how it attaches to the stern on my boat.

                      A few observations:
                      * Whatever poor handling characteristics the stock Trumpeter Seawolf exhibits are made even worse when you stretch her into Jimmy Carter.
                      * All testing thus far has been with an un-shrouded prop, for what that's worth. I intend to attach it with some RTV sealant so it can be removable if need be in the future.
                      * My prop, as is, with the stock 2" SD motor does power the boat forward. Not achingly slow, but it's not also not a rocket. I suspect if it were faster, the rudders and planes might exhibit a bit more control authority. I also realize it's nearly 4ft long, and those little rudders can only do so much at their scale size.

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                      • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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                        • Aug 2008
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                        #41
                        Originally posted by DMTNT

                        Only teasing! More like damned impressive. How's that?

                        While we're at it, I have a question for the headmaster... Do you recall when you fabricated the impeller for the 1/144 Seawolf what the overall diameter was? I finally hooked up my setup and was beyond pleased to see it works, but I'm curious how my prop compares to one that's proven. Mine was designed by a fellow from Spain on Shapeways who intended it for RC use, but to my knowledge has never tested it. Attached are a few 3D photos. It measures 35mm and is cast in bronze. I've done some hunting for 35mm props / impellers, and while there are a couple out there, the options aren't great. I'm size limited due to the dimensions of the impeller shroud, which is also a 3D printed component. I could use the kit supplied impeller shroud and a slightly bigger prop, but it would require some redesign of how it attaches to the stern on my boat.

                        A few observations:
                        * Whatever poor handling characteristics the stock Trumpeter Seawolf exhibits are made even worse when you stretch her into Jimmy Carter.
                        * All testing thus far has been with an un-shrouded prop, for what that's worth. I intend to attach it with some RTV sealant so it can be removable if need be in the future.
                        * My prop, as is, with the stock 2" SD motor does power the boat forward. Not achingly slow, but it's not also not a rocket. I suspect if it were faster, the rudders and planes might exhibit a bit more control authority. I also realize it's nearly 4ft long, and those little rudders can only do so much at their scale size.
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                        That rotor is a screaming piece of ****! Hardly any pitch to it. (Rule of thumb for marine propeller/rotor: pitch=diameter and developed blade area, less the hub, is between 60-70% of the disc). And there is no useful stator in there, just a four point shroud support. That makes this propulsor a dumb-ass Kort nozzle.

                        Don't equate pretty with useful. That propulsor is useless!

                        I get plenty of thrust from my PJ as applied to the 1/144 Trumpeter SEAWOLF. It's a frig'n rocket!

                        Why don't I just send you a proper pump-jet assembly for your long suffering 1/144 USS Peanut?

                        Yeah, the longer moment arm turns this piglet into a full-blown pig in a turn. Double or treble the area of the lower rudder.
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                        David
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                        • DMTNT
                          Commander
                          • Jun 2018
                          • 297

                          #42
                          Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named

                          That rotor is a screaming piece of ****! Hardly any pitch to it. (Rule of thumb for marine propeller/rotor: pitch=diameter and developed blade area, less the hub, is between 60-70% of the disc). And there is no useful stator in there, just a four point shroud support. That makes this propulsor a dumb-ass Kort nozzle.

                          Don't equate pretty with useful. That propulsor is useless!

                          I get plenty of thrust from my PJ as applied to the 1/144 Trumpeter SEAWOLF. It's a frig'n rocket!

                          Why don't I just send you a proper pump-jet assembly for your long suffering 1/144 USS Peanut?

                          Yeah, the longer moment arm turns this piglet into a full-blown pig in a turn. Double or treble the area of the lower rudder.
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                          David
                          That would be fantastic if you were able to. Can you send me a PM and we can get it worked out? I believe it says your inbox is full.

                          Thank you!
                          Dead men tell no tales...

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                          • HardRock
                            Vice Admiral
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 1609

                            #43
                            Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named

                            That rotor is a screaming piece of ****! Hardly any pitch to it. (Rule of thumb for marine propeller/rotor: pitch=diameter and developed blade area, less the hub, is between 60-70% of the disc). And there is no useful stator in there, just a four point shroud support. That makes this propulsor a dumb-ass Kort nozzle.

                            Don't equate pretty with useful. That propulsor is useless!

                            I get plenty of thrust from my PJ as applied to the 1/144 Trumpeter SEAWOLF. It's a frig'n rocket!

                            Why don't I just send you a proper pump-jet assembly for your long suffering 1/144 USS Peanut?

                            Yeah, the longer moment arm turns this piglet into a full-blown pig in a turn. Double or treble the area of the lower rudder.
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                            David
                            You know, I have always thought that you would have made a great diplomat. Subtley, persuasion, empathetic argument etc., etc. Its all there (just waiting to emerge)!

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                            • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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                              • Aug 2008
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                              #44
                              Originally posted by DMTNT

                              That would be fantastic if you were able to. Can you send me a PM and we can get it worked out? I believe it says your inbox is full.

                              Thank you!
                              Just blast me your mailing address and I'll fix you up, pal.

                              dmeriman@aol.com
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                              • DMTNT
                                Commander
                                • Jun 2018
                                • 297

                                #45
                                Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named

                                Just blast me your mailing address and I'll fix you up, pal.

                                dmeriman@aol.com
                                On the way!
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