Newbie no more - Building the Revell 1/72 Gato

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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
    Moderator
    • Aug 2008
    • 12320

    Hey, I'm thrilled to see another one of these things go together.

    David
    Who is John Galt?

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    • trout
      Admiral
      • Jul 2011
      • 3547

      I went shopping for stuff.....I got the aluminum (aluminium for our proper english friends) tubes I needed, but I can't get Owens Corning Foam F-250? My Home Depot does not carry this - I guess being a warmer weather state gets factored in. Any other suggestions? What does a sheet run? Anyone needing to buy one I can go in with?
      If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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      • beeryboats
        Lieutenant Commander
        • Jun 2011
        • 124

        Tom,
        You should be able to find that pink foam there somewhere. As hot as it is there, they use foam panels. If not I have a bunch here I bought for cutting foam wings. It would cost more to ship it than it's worth though. Keep looking for the pink stuff! Have you done any radio installation yet? I need to charge the radio before next weekend so it's up and running. This is the part I hate when it comes to building RC aircraft, rigging the radio. Looks like I may have to splice the larger aluminum tube to make it long enough to control the retract of the dive planes. And I asked David how to install the snort and glue the guide for the forward controls to the lexan tube.
        Jay

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        • trout
          Admiral
          • Jul 2011
          • 3547

          Jay, Your build coming along great! Thank you for the encouragement on the search for foam. I will keep looking for the pink stuff. So far it looks like around here, everything is the fiber insulation. Yes, I have begun playing with the radio. Do you know what I learned? Things change (can you believe it?). My receiver (Futaba) has G type plugs.
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          G to the left, J to the right. The radio works great with the modifications I did. My old batteries were long gone, but I modified my TX to hold a newer battery pack (with AA rechargeable batteries) and the RX (for testing purposes) is using a battery pack with rechargeable AA batteries.
          The new servos and receivers use J type or JR plugs. So I have choices. I can buy J pins and connectors and cut the cables on my old servos to use the J plug portion (cheapest, but time consuming) or buy pre made cables to convert the new G servos to J receiver (most expensive, but not time consuming) or a combination of buying G plug pigtails and J plug ends. All have pluses and minuses. BUT wait, David or Mike, will the SL-8 work with my old Futaba?


          Not wanting to let the build be stagnant, began some details on the hull (I will post at a later date). I did rescan the line drawing in the Revell instructions to a higher resolution, and cleaned it up.
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          Will finish the drive shaft install on Wednesday (hopefully) and post the progress.
          It is getting close to a tub test. I can't wait.
          If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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          • oztruck
            Commander
            • May 2010
            • 317

            The "TUB' test is always a lot of fun but I have found it is a lot better on the old back and knees to use my 6' X 4' box trailer.

            I got some plastic pond sheeting and lined my trailer with it, then filled the trailer with water. What I now have is a "Test Tank" that is long enough to float most of my boats and deep enough to completely submerge the subs for testing.

            The best part is that I don't have to bend over to see what is going on with the boats. and getting them in and out is a lot less drama than walking a dripping sub out from the bathroom to where it is to be worked on, especially when the wife is looking.

            Luv your work and keep the photos coming

            Cheers Chris.

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            • trout
              Admiral
              • Jul 2011
              • 3547

              Chris - Wow thank you! You are very kind. Not a bad suggestion to build a test tank.
              If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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              • trout
                Admiral
                • Jul 2011
                • 3547

                I posted a question to Sombra Labs (they were very quick to respond) and buying a RX to work with my antiquated Futaba system is a no go. and some sad news, my budget just taken a hit. My dog has cancer and we will be doing a surgery in a couple of weeks.
                If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                • beeryboats
                  Lieutenant Commander
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 124

                  Tom,
                  Sorry to hear about your dog. We've had more than our share of dealing with pets over the years. I feel for you. As for a test tank, mine is frozen or will be in about two days. In your area I can't believe you, or a friend, don't have one in the yard. I'm not rushing the build as I won't see fluid water for months now.
                  Jay

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                  • trout
                    Admiral
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 3547

                    Thank you Jay! We will continue to hope for the best. The toughest part is explaining to Sam (7) about what is going on.
                    I ordered the pre made cables to go between G and J servo connectors and RX. This is temporary as I hope that sometime in the future I will get the WFLY 8 Ch radio and a Sombra Labs Receiver.

                    There is a feeling, I cannot express adequately, when I came to this point. The connecting of the Propellor shaft to the WTC. I hope this feeling happens with every sub I build. I will AGAIN mention get the DVD by David. He goes through this step so well! I am doing it only because of what he teaches.
                    Take a measurement between the end of the propellor shaft’s Dumas coupler and the WTC Dumas coupler. Cutting the aluminum tube is so simple. Who knew? Yes, I know you did. All I had to do is roll the edge of my x-acto along at the point I wanted my cut, and bend. It snaps at the place it is scored.
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                    Cut the nylon Dumas coupler in half, insert one half in each end, and test the fit. It will look something like this.
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                    Next using 1/16” bit, drill through the tube and nylon coupler.
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                    Tap a piece of 1/16” brass rod through your newly created hole.
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                    I trimmed the ends close and hammered it down using a jeweler's hammer. The black marking was used to make sure the end did not shift prior to being drilled.
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                    Two shafts ready for install.
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                    And of course, here they are installed.
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                    If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                    • trout
                      Admiral
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 3547

                      Anybody want to sell me Pink Foam? I searched and to no avail. I talked to a Home Depot and they can special order it for ~$1,500 (it appears there is a minimum order to get it in). Is there a different source or type?
                      Thank in advance!
                      If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                      • tsenecal
                        Lieutenant
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 63

                        check and see if they have "R-Tech Foam Insulation" sheets. the homedepot website claims it is available in las vegas in different thicknesses from 3/4" to 2" in 4' x 8' sheets for $8 - $19... I haven't looked for it in my store here, but it looks like some of the styrofoam stuff i have used in some of my subs.

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                        • trout
                          Admiral
                          • Jul 2011
                          • 3547

                          Thank you tsenecal! I went on-line ordered a sheet (about a half hour after you posted). The store called me to tell me the bad news. The sheet was damaged and they were so sorry, but they would give me a discount (it was only $8 and some change with tax) When I got there (my first shock was how big 4'x8' really is), the lady offered it at half off if that was o.k. - I said sure, if I must. I have enough foam to build the 1/72 Typhoon Akula - oh heck let us go 1/32!
                          Again thank you for the great direction! another piece off my list!
                          3/4 in. x 4 ft. x 8 ft. Foam Insulation

                          Model 310873
                          Store SKU 483214
                          Internet/Catalog SKU 202530470
                          If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                          • beeryboats
                            Lieutenant Commander
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 124

                            Tom, if you don't have a hot wire foam cutter, you can try an electric carving knife to cut the stuff. It works really well on the white stryofoam board I used on the train set, it should work ok for the pink stuff.
                            Jay

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                            • Kazzer
                              *********
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 2848

                              Originally posted by trout
                              Anybody want to sell me Pink Foam? I searched and to no avail. I talked to a Home Depot and they can special order it for ~$1,500 (it appears there is a minimum order to get it in). Is there a different source or type?
                              Thank in advance!

                              Am I too late here?

                              Send me an address and I'll mail you some. FOC

                              How much do you need for this boat?


                              Owens Corning Foamular
                              Last edited by Kazzer; 12-10-2011, 12:16 PM.
                              Stop messing about - just get a Sub-driver!

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                              • trout
                                Admiral
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 3547

                                @Jay, thank you, I do not have a foam cutter. Great suggestion.

                                @Mike Thank you! I think I am O.K., unless the pink has better bouyancy characteristics. Your thoughts are valued! White vs. Pink, sounds like a movie I remember...hmmm.
                                If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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