Methods of incorporating neat and accurate "sea steps" in 1/72 & 1/96 scale models?

[wlambing]

Oh, you mean that stupid thing for on the sail that NOBODY ever used!!! Too much of a pain in the ass! 688s had to, 'cos they forgot to put ladder rungs on the sail. The fabric one I was thinking of was the Admiral's ladder, that draped over the side of the hull, maybe only on the fast boats. It had 2"X2"X3' battens captured in the fabric for "steps". It was clipped to the safety track when in use. I do recall that Grant had a god-awful waste of time and money all-aluminum accommodation ladder stored in the ships cage! Some idiot admiral's idea that submarines needed them. Hell, the boats couldn't even carry them!!! Another mystery, similar to the 4'X8' sheet of 1/2" thick copper plate that was assigned as equipage to every submarine. Nobody knew why it was there, or what it was for!

[QuarterMaster]

Ed,
You were in charge of the ships sewing machine, so get you thread out and knit one! )
David,
I don't believe you shanked me! I think it was a healthy pinch with lock-wire pliers, followed by a good yank! At least that's what this Lower-level Louie would do! ;) What, were you trying to corner the world supply of Dremel tools, too?

Thank you for those additional pictures! They will augment my other research files nicely!

Take care, All!

Bill

Hey! I remember GRANTS being a galvanized, metal affair! Constructed of chain, and each round rung had oversized disks on each end to keep them off the hull. I thought I had a photo

[redboat219]

Nice thingamajig.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Ed,
You were in charge of the ships sewing machine, so get you thread out and knit one! )
David,
I don't believe you shanked me! I think it was a healthy pinch with lock-wire pliers, followed by a good yank! At least that's what this Lower-level Louie would do! ;) What, were you trying to corner the world supply of Dremel tools, too?

Thank you for those additional pictures! They will augment my other research files nicely!

Take care, All!

Bill

Still got my lockwire pliers from the WEBSTER days. Serv-Mart special!




David

[wlambing]

Ed,
You were in charge of the ships sewing machine, so get you thread out and knit one! )
David,
I don't believe you shanked me! I think it was a healthy pinch with lock-wire pliers, followed by a good yank! At least that's what this Lower-level Louie would do! ;) What, were you trying to corner the world supply of Dremel tools, too?

Thank you for those additional pictures! They will augment my other research files nicely!

Take care, All!

Bill

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Dave,

Show us your "Jacob's Ladder"!!

In my world a Jacob's Ladder is a portable, flexible ladder strung over the side, consisting of rope and wooden steps. Don't remember modeling one of those, Bob.

[QuarterMaster]

Dave,

Show us your "Jacob's Ladder"!!

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Yes, the semi-circular holes! The bar type thingies are more correctly known as "grab irons". I see you teasing me with the master hull for the Foxtrot! You *******!!!! Currently working on her sail. That's where I want to replicate those steps. I do use the drill hole, insert half-round plastic rod, glue trim, fill, sand, repeat on the larger scale hulls. The cast resin sail isn't as easy as one would think it to be, due to thickness and the rough inside of the sail half. I'll get 'er though!!!!!! BTW, know where I can get an anchor for her? There was a missing sprue tree and some other stuff not included when this beast was purchased, way back when.

Thank you, David, just what I was hoping for!

Take care,

Bill

Tooling on the 1/72 FOXTROT was never completed, Bill. But all masters and what tools I did make are in Bob's hands. What I was working on was my GRP hull, not the master, I assume Bob got them when Mike Caswell turned the business over to him -- but I'm not sure of that. Check with Bob.

Here, let me twist that knife a bit more... does it hurt yet?!. https://youtu.be/wJ0Sxr2gvV8



























David

[SubICman]

Penetrations, weld lines, access plates, and even overall geometry of these boats was as varied as the sub-contractors and yards that horridly slapped these things together in anticipation of the eventual amphibious landings that were to befall the Home Islands. Two eggs put all that to rest.

David

True. That's what makes these nice to model. It's your choice, nothing within reason is wrong

[wlambing]

Yes, the semi-circular holes! The bar type thingies are more correctly known as "grab irons". I see you teasing me with the master hull for the Foxtrot! You *******!!!! Currently working on her sail. That's where I want to replicate those steps. I do use the drill hole, insert half-round plastic rod, glue trim, fill, sand, repeat on the larger scale hulls. The cast resin sail isn't as easy as one would think it to be, due to thickness and the rough inside of the sail half. I'll get 'er though!!!!!! BTW, know where I can get an anchor for her? There was a missing sprue tree and some other stuff not included when this beast was purchased, way back when.

Thank you, David, just what I was hoping for!

Take care,

Bill

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Nice! That's why your the best Dave.

I took a slightly different approach on the Kaiyru tho. Theough my research if found that those ateps were acrually closed on the backside. I 3D modeled them and yes I printed them, then did the same as you demonstrated above.

Penetrations, weld lines, access plates, and even overall geometry of these boats was as varied as the sub-contractors and yards that horridly slapped these things together in anticipation of the eventual amphibious landings that were to befall the Home Islands. Two eggs put all that to rest.

David

[SubICman]

Nice! That's why your the best Dave.

I took a slightly different approach on the Kaiyru tho. Theough my research if found that those ateps were acrually closed on the backside. I 3D modeled them and yes I printed them, then did the same as you demonstrated above.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Indeed he is Dave. We have had this conversation several times. My filing game is ok, but I can stand to learn some more.

[SubICman]

You talk'n about the openings in the sides of the superstructure acting as foot and hand holes?

Indeed he is Dave. We have had this conversation several times. My filing game is ok, but I can stand to learn some more.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]