3.5" Cylinder Assist

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  • wlambing
    Commander

    • Nov 2020
    • 356

    #1

    3.5" Cylinder Assist

    I am getting close on getting my 1/72 Skipjack trimmed. Standard process; submerge, try stuff, pull apart, glue in foam/weight, repeat. Each session, I have about 1/3 cup of water in the battery compartment and a good 1/2 cup in the engineroom. The last one had a drop of water on top of the safety float valve, and all sessions have shown droplets inside the clear PVC tubing. Stuck valve? How to fix? Blowing into the submerged cylinder does not show any other leaks, although the MBT vent pushrod could be in cahoots!

    TIA,

    Bill
  • biggsgolf
    Captain

    • Jan 2020
    • 922

    #2
    What subdriver?

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    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
      Moderator

      • Aug 2008
      • 13390

      #3
      Originally posted by wlambing
      I am getting close on getting my 1/72 Skipjack trimmed. Standard process; submerge, try stuff, pull apart, glue in foam/weight, repeat. Each session, I have about 1/3 cup of water in the battery compartment and a good 1/2 cup in the engineroom. The last one had a drop of water on top of the safety float valve, and all sessions have shown droplets inside the clear PVC tubing. Stuck valve? How to fix? Blowing into the submerged cylinder does not show any other leaks, although the MBT vent pushrod could be in cahoots!

      TIA,

      Bill
      That's major-league flooding.

      Look at the LPB pump housing -- is there any water in there that should not be there? Anywho... bring it along this weekend and I'll give the entire system the hairy-eyeball, Bill.

      One more thing: any cracks from bulkhead retaining screws that have migrated over the internal bulkhead O-rings?

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      David
      Who is John Galt?

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      • SubSteve
        Lieutenant Commander

        • Apr 2022
        • 116

        #4
        Man I'd drive a long-ass distance to take Dave up on that offer!

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        • wlambing
          Commander

          • Nov 2020
          • 356

          #5
          I'll eyeball the cylinder today. I recognize the cracks in the pictures! :) That's my 2.5" cylinder. Tub trials will continue today. Yes, it will be at the base.

          David and I have a unique relationship. I have known of him since the 70s and he of me since the 90s. He does the driving, and I feed him. It all works out!!

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          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
            Moderator

            • Aug 2008
            • 13390

            #6
            Originally posted by wlambing
            I'll eyeball the cylinder today. I recognize the cracks in the pictures! :) That's my 2.5" cylinder. Tub trials will continue today. Yes, it will be at the base.

            David and I have a unique relationship. I have known of him since the 70s and he of me since the 90s. He does the driving, and I feed him. It all works out!!
            The perfect symbiotic relationship (still not clear who's the host and who's the parasite... **** it, just as long as I get fed, who cares!)
            Who is John Galt?

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            • wlambing
              Commander

              • Nov 2020
              • 356

              #7
              An old crack reawakens! There's an existing crack across the bottom bulkhead bolt hole, running from the MBT flood port and extending aft into the engineroom a distance of perhaps 1 1/4". It had been mitigated years ago, but seems to have tried an end-around with 3 branches of about 1/4" total. I drilled, filled and used catalyzed CA and solvent for acrylics, covered with a healthy dose of RTV and capped with good, old fashioned electrical tape. Todays water intrusion was: Fwd- 1/3 thimble, Aft- 1/3 cup. I'm skeptical on that one, as the o-ring the crack transverses still appears to have a nice squish band at that location. We'll see what tomorrow brings

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              • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                Moderator

                • Aug 2008
                • 13390

                #8
                Originally posted by wlambing
                An old crack reawakens! There's an existing crack across the bottom bulkhead bolt hole, running from the MBT flood port and extending aft into the engineroom a distance of perhaps 1 1/4". It had been mitigated years ago, but seems to have tried an end-around with 3 branches of about 1/4" total. I drilled, filled and used catalyzed CA and solvent for acrylics, covered with a healthy dose of RTV and capped with good, old fashioned electrical tape. Todays water intrusion was: Fwd- 1/3 thimble, Aft- 1/3 cup. I'm skeptical on that one, as the o-ring the crack transverses still appears to have a nice squish band at that location. We'll see what tomorrow brings
                Enough. I'll take it back home with me, work up a new cylinder and populate it with the gear from the cracked unit. You've ****ed that old dog enough, Bill.
                Who is John Galt?

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                • wlambing
                  Commander

                  • Nov 2020
                  • 356

                  #9
                  Thank you, sir. I shall enough it then and consult with you this weekend. See you Friday! Safe traveling,

                  Bill

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                  • wlambing
                    Commander

                    • Nov 2020
                    • 356

                    #10
                    HWSNBN,

                    I got to wondering yesterday about the possible need to replace some o-rings in the future, so, I thought I would ask if you would publish the specs for 2.5", 3.0", and 3.5" o-rings used in D&E Subdrivers?? The rings in my cylinder for the 1/72 Gato are not present in the stern end cap. I suspect some grumpy old, curmudgeonly, too, old o-ring-thiever has perhaps made off with them!

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                    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                      Moderator

                      • Aug 2008
                      • 13390

                      #11
                      Originally posted by wlambing
                      HWSNBN,

                      I got to wondering yesterday about the possible need to replace some o-rings in the future, so, I thought I would ask if you would publish the specs for 2.5", 3.0", and 3.5" o-rings used in D&E Subdrivers?? The rings in my cylinder for the 1/72 Gato are not present in the stern end cap. I suspect some grumpy old, curmudgeonly, too, old o-ring-thiever has perhaps made off with them!
                      I can't give you a straight answer, Bill, as I custom size the O-ring to the cylinder.

                      This owing to the fact that all extruded cylinders are of inconsistent I.D. dimension's. This coupled with variance's in bulkhead O-ring groove depth and width means each situation demands a specific diameter O-ring to achieve a tight seating between O-ring-bulkhead-cylinder. It varies from bulkhead-cylinder to bulkhead-cylinder.

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                      Get one of those large-size O-ring kits (you're looking for 1/16" wall O-rings) and mix and match as required.

                      David
                      Master of Chaos
                      Who is John Galt?

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                      • wlambing
                        Commander

                        • Nov 2020
                        • 356

                        #12
                        Got it! Appreciate the explanation, and I understand from the years of worshiping the NSTM!!

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