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  • biggsgolf
    Captain

    • Jan 2020
    • 927

    #1

    Diving

    Do either the forward or stern dive planes have more effect on the boat diving?
  • QuarterMaster
    Rear Admiral

    • Sep 2015
    • 1213

    #2
    Stern planes.have the greater effect.

    Okay, as we were taught in Subschool...

    Stern Planes:
    Coarse depth control.
    Changes the angle-bubble-pitch of the boat to use propulsion to affect rapid changes of depth. Say changing from 150' to 700' feet and you wish to get there somewhat quicker than a snail's pace. Useful for Torpedo evasion lol!
    Poor use at PD can broach the bow or raise the screw out of the water...bad submarine form lol!

    Bow/Fairwater planes
    Fine depth control.
    Used to maintain ordered depth while the stern planes maintain zero bubble.

    FWIW, during High speed transit (Full/Flank Bell), Fast boats don't use the F/W's and have the Stern planesman soley maintain depth control, once slowing back to Patrol/silent approach speed, the OOD would transfer Ordered depth control to the Helmsman/Planesman. At least back in my day. Hopefully no Stern Plane jam would occur at speed loll In that case it's rudder hard over/fishtail, full rise on the fairwaters to prevent a 20+ knot boat exceeding Test then Crush depth.

    Hope this helps!
    Last edited by QuarterMaster; 05-16-2024, 05:13 PM.
    v/r "Sub" Ed

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    • biggsgolf
      Captain

      • Jan 2020
      • 927

      #3
      Originally posted by QuarterMaster
      Stern planes.have the greater effect.

      Okay, as we were taught in Subschool...

      Stern Planes:
      Coarse depth control.
      Changes the angle-bubble-pitch of the boat to use propulsion to affect rapid changes of depth. Say changing from 150' to 700' feet and you wish to get there somewhat quicker than a snail's pace. Useful for Torpedo evasion lol!
      Poor use at PD can broach the bow or raise the screw out of the water...bad submarine form lol!

      Bow/Fairwater planes
      Fine depth control.
      Used to maintain ordered depth while the stern planes maintain zero bubble.

      FWIW, during High speed transit (Full/Flank Bell), Fast boats don't use the F/W's and have the Stern planesman soley maintain depth control, once slowing back to Patrol/silent approach speed, the OOD would transfer Ordered depth control to the Helmsman/Planesman. At least back in my day. Hopefully no Stern Plane jam would occur at speed loll In that case it's rudder hard over/fishtail, full rise on the fairwaters to prevent a 20+ knot boat exceeding Test then Crush depth.

      Hope this helps!
      Amazing info!, thanks Ed!

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