Id this!

[greenman407]

CAN YOU ID THIS SUB? Ill give you a clue. Its Russian.

[Albion]

CAN YOU ID THIS SUB? Ill give you a clue. Its Russian.

i dotn know what its called, but i remember seeing that Ramesh had a kit for this with strange mechanical system for raising the masts. its some kind of special forces assualt sub, i think

[Outrider]

Lossos SSK

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Losos_class_submarine

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ship/row/rus/865.htm

[redboat219]

Concur with Outrider. Unique sub, has a titanium hull.

[greenman407]

Ah now the monkeys out of the bag thanks to the quick wit of the collective. In addition to the Lossos its also called the Piranah

[greenman407]

The side pods open to reveal swimmer assist vehicles. Good job guys!:wink:

[greenman407]

http://s181686668.onlinehome.us/phpB...hp?f=39&t=5501 Wayne Frey has some good pictures of it also.

[greenman407]

A Treasure trove of american sub info can be found here.http://www.navsource.org/archives/subidx.htm

[greenman407]

OK, Try this one on for size.

[Outrider]

I haven't given up yet, but this one seems pretty unusual because of what appear to be fixed stabilizers on the stern. Almost certainly a US built boat.

Looks like it could be a GUPPY III sail. I've looked at the SSRs and SSKs, too. (And even the unusual USS Tullibee and USS Albacore...) You can find the prominent PUFFS-style sonar on most of these types, but I haven't found anything with a fixed V on the upper stern.

Clues from the harbor are the crane, the scaffolding on the two destroyers, the tug and the dock workers who are not military. Post WWII, probably mid-50s to early '60s.

[greenman407]

Yep! Its definately a Tench or Balao fleet boat conversion. I picked this picture up somewhere but I dont know which boat or where or why.

[Outrider]

The thing that's throwing me for a loop is the two protrusions on the stern. They do not appear to be movable control surfaces. They could be mounting struts or roll stabilizers.

[greenman407]

I went to Navsourse and looked at every single picture that they had on every fleetboat. Didnt see it!

[Outrider]

Mystery solved. It's USS Harder (SS-568), a Tang class SS

http://www.navsource.org/archives/08/08568.htm

Still trying to sort out those two struts aft of the PUFFS sonar. These are fitted in the 1965 photo, but none that I can see earlier. The struts stayed on for the rest of her career, including her Italian service:

http://www.betasom.it/forum/lofiversion/index.php?t29738-100.html

The Tang did not have these struts... and, based on NAVSOURCE and Wikipedia photos, neither did any others of the class.

[greenman407]

Thats why I couldnt find it. I was sure it was a fleet boat so I didnt look any further. Thanks Outrider, Mystery solved. Except we still dont know what the fins are for. Perhaps an experimental stabilizing system.