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  • rwtdiver
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    After having all the issues I have had with the 300 series Easy Driver with leaks, and getting the X-Tail setup working to some degree of success, the 212 A is in the water and operational!

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    The turning radius is limited do to the size of the pool, and I understand that. But the boat looks good in the water and it does run! I call that a successful boat build and run for me! Now some final finish work on the sail, sand and primer, and a final paint scheme applied and I can call this boat DONE!! :-))

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    Thanks for all the participation and input that I have had with this build! Moving on!

    Rob
    "Firemen can stand the heat."

    Note: 7/1/2024! After the final trim out on this boat, and some running time, the "X" tail linkage system did not work out at all. I made several attempts to correct the issues, I tossed in the towel. With all the leak problems with the new 300 series cylinder, plus the stern linkages, this boat is now in moth balls! My whole overall 212 A boat endeavor's have not been very good. Burned out and moving on.....
    Last edited by rwtdiver; 07-01-2024, 06:21 PM.

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  • rwtdiver
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    I have made several attempts to get this new cylinder leak free.

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    I did manage to seal up the issues on the forward end cap. I took the push rod on the rear end cap out cleaned it up, installed a new cup seal to see if this might correct that problem. Did not have success with that.

    As a final and last resort, I took the push rod out again and installed a bellow over the existing bushing and push rod and sealed it all up with silicone adhesive.

    Rob
    "Firemen can stand the heat."

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  • rwtdiver
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    Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named

    Hey, good man, Casey. I know I've stepped on my Dork more than once here.

    David
    Idiot
    Everything is good! No problem!

    Rob
    "Firemen can stand the heat."

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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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    Originally posted by Das Boot
    Rob,
    I wasn’t trying to be mean spirited. I just get interested in your projects, and sometimes you move on before they’re done, and I’ve never seen any of those videos or photos before. Again, my motivation was not meant to be anything other than encouragement. If you or anyone else here took it wrong, I offer my apologies.
    Casey
    Hey, good man, Casey. I know I've stepped on my Dork more than once here.

    David
    Idiot

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  • Das Boot
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    Rob,
    I wasn’t trying to be mean spirited. I just get interested in your projects, and sometimes you move on before they’re done, and I’ve never seen any of those videos or photos before. Again, my motivation was not meant to be anything other than encouragement. If you or anyone else here took it wrong, I offer my apologies.
    Casey

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  • rwtdiver
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    Well today was finally the big test day.!

    #1 Retest the cylinder for leaks! (Did not go well)



    Repaired the problem with the bow end cap of the cylinder . The second test, I found a leak at the stern end cap. see video below.

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    When the cylinder was sitting with no control movement and with the cylinder full of air (test hose) and under water, there was no leakage anywhere. When I applied power and operated the servos, well as you can see a leak from the seal or bushing?

    As you might guess, I am a little disturbed by the problems I am having with this new cylinder!

    #2 Put the boat in the water with the cylinder (and battery) BUT not turned on. STATIC only, to see how she sat in the water. Well, as you see by the photo, she went to the bottom.

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    The 212 A sure looked good on the bottom! :-)) I got the boat out and made some miner adjustments to the amount of weights forward and aft, and there location in the boat.

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    I removed some weight from the stern and the bow, and tried it again.


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    To me and for my running, the 212 is sitting great in the water. Do some detail work on the sail, slap on a hull paint job, do some (very little weathering) and the 212 A boat it's self is ready for the water. But, without an operational cylinder....

    Rob
    "Firemen can stand the heat."

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  • rwtdiver
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    As I stated above about my leak in the cylinder,, I made the decision based on my use of this particular 212 boat and the cylinder, I would secure the stern end cap to the cylinder permanently!

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    I incased the inside of the end cap and around the seal. This worked and the leak issue is no more. When want to work on any part of the electronics you just pull the front end cap off and it exposes the complete inner components for any possible future repairs.

    I have charged the control unit baterry as well as the transmitter batter, and we are going to do a trim test and possible 212 boat run!?:-))

    Rob
    "Firemen can stand the heat."

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  • RCSubGuy
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    Originally posted by Das Boot
    I would love to see one of your boats in the water, at least one time.
    Mr. Sunshine is making friends yet again.

    Rob's got a hundred pages of builds documented here on the forums. Trim your jib for a new tack and you'll go further.

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  • rwtdiver
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    Originally posted by Das Boot
    I would love to see one of your boats in the water, at least one time.
    OK Sherlock,

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    The HL Hunley! The 1st Submarine To Ever Sink a US Warship! (youtube.com)

    I tossed this last one for good measure!

    Tri-Copter Test (youtube.com)

    And If that's not enough YouTubes, here is my site you can go over....

    (6) Robert Taylor - YouTube

    Rob
    "Firemen can stand the heat."​


    To answer Steven,

    It does save a lot of space when th motor can be run in the wet. And you don't have run a shaft seal. although you still have the wiring.

    Rob
    "Firemen can stand the heat."
    Last edited by rwtdiver; 05-05-2024, 12:52 AM.

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  • Albacore 569
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    Originally posted by rwtdiver

    Hi Steven,

    This is the series 300 Easy Driver, and it is one of the newer models with the brushless motors mounted to the outside of the end cap. The older cylinders had the motors on the inside of the cylinder. I have a couple of othe boats with the same design, and so far, I have not had any problems with the brushless motors in the wet.

    Rob
    "Firemen can stand the heat."
    I'm sure they are very reliable. I was thinking of the extra volume in the dry space it now it frees up. Thank you.
    Last edited by Albacore 569; 05-04-2024, 05:46 PM.

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  • Das Boot
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    I would love to see one of your boats in the water, at least one time.

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  • rwtdiver
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    Originally posted by Albacore 569
    Looks like this 212 A uses a brushless motor in the water ?
    Hi Steven,

    This is the series 300 Easy Driver, and it is one of the newer models with the brushless motors mounted to the outside of the end cap. The older cylinders had the motors on the inside of the cylinder. I have a couple of othe boats with the same design, and so far, I have not had any problems with the brushless motors in the wet.

    Rob
    "Firemen can stand the heat."

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  • Albacore 569
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    Looks like this 212 A uses a brushless motor in the water ?

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  • rwtdiver
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    Before I installed the 300 series EasyDriver cylinder into the boat, I spent some time doing leak test on the cylinder.

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    I ran into a substantial leak problem around the cylinder adaptor to the End cap. I did find a piece or chip out on the end cap adaptor. I cleaned it up with some denatured alcohol and applied some silicone on the chip out. Hopefully after the silicone has had time to cure out this will solve the issue.

    If that does not solve the problem, I may just permanently install the back endcap.

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    I do not need these two servos that are mounted in the rear of cylinder for the German 212 A Boat. Therefore, I can silicone this end cap in and solve the problem. much easier than have to box it up and send it back for proper repair or replacement.

    Ounce I have the cylinder issue secured I will get back to the trim out and actual trial run of my 212.

    Rob
    "Firemen can stand the heat."

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  • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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    Originally posted by Das Boot

    I want to see this boat run.
    Me too. Go get 'em, Ron!

    David

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