Yeah. I vaguely remember hearing something like that, Tom. But, it was his product line so I paid little attention to the details of how things were marketed or protected from unfair business practices. I was just an inventor/developer/producer/vendor. It was up to Mike, and later Bob, to protect their product. Ellie and I stopped freelancing the moment we signed on with Mike, and later Bob. Now, Ellie is no more and I'm retired working on my bucket-list. We're out of the commercial side of the game.
David
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My memory is failing. I recall Mike saying he did and would fight to protect the name. I will humbly eat crow and stop saying this.Leave a comment:
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How 'bout we let Bob decide what to call his new gizmo? There you go!... GIZMO!!!!!
Slow day at the forum, huh, guy's?
Not a peep about innovative linkages and challenging r/c submarine subjects, and good old-fashioned mechanical problem solving. No! Yet, we gravitate to the trivial and stupid **** like, how and why to name things.
We're supposed to be better than this nonsense! Am I the only swinging-**** out there making useful posts?
The lexicon is already out there. Use it!
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How about ASDS for Advance Subdriver System or
ASDIC for Advance Subdriver Improved CylinderLeave a comment:
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Hey, I would be honored if you kept the name, Bob. It just should not be out there for general use, for the reason Redboat219 stated. You are the only exception I would approve of.
David
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You mean on top of designing a new cylinder, I need to figure out a new name for them!? Yeesssh..
Maybe we can have a contest to come up with a new name!?
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Your point about the 'subdriver' name being used to describe a crummy WTC (I originated the WTC term) is well taken. And people who do use that name to (unintentially, I hope) muddy my reputation a bit are beyond my reach... legally speaking.Just sharing this.
I feel it's inappropriate to call someone's scratchbuilt WTC a Subdriver. Not sure if David patented or copyrighted his brand of WTC but out of respect for the man STOP calling it a Subdriver.
Let's say Mr. X, posted online that his boat was lost due to his Subdriver leaking like a sieve, the guy who's going to look bad in peoples eye will be David not Mr. X for a crappy SD.
Point of interest: It was after we were engaged by Mr. Caswell to develop and produce product for his company that he assigned the name 'subdriver' to, what up to that time, Ellie and I had simply referred to as the WTC. The term continued after the Caswell companies interests had been transferred to Bob Martin.
As Bob's own design of a WTC comes on line I'm confident he will come up with his own term for that product, in an effort to distance it from my design.
No, Ellie and I never secured copyright or patent protection of name or product as we neither had the funds nor time to chase offenders around the globe. I don't know if Mr. Caswell did either.
So. For good or bad the term 'subdriver' is in the public domain, as far as I know. Just another term to throw about, such as: 'module', 'WTC', 'MSD', 'SD', and 'Tupperware' (gee... thanks... Johann!).
David
Formerly D&E Miniatures
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Now every WTC is a Subdriver
Just sharing this.
I feel it's inappropriate to call someone's scratchbuilt WTC a Subdriver. Not sure if David patented or copyrighted his brand of WTC but out of respect for the man STOP calling it a Subdriver.
Let's say Mr. X, posted online that his boat was lost due to his Subdriver leaking like a sieve, the guy who's going to look bad in peoples eye will be David not Mr. X for a crappy SD.Last edited by redboat219; 10-09-2021, 01:33 AM.Tags: None
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