Daily submarine picture

[Von Hilde]

thats a hatch on the Los Angles, a smaller attack sub, but it loads the same way. The weapons hatch is a bit forward of the sail

[greenman407]

Heres another one, different boat.

[Von Hilde]

Might be just people. It has a lock out compartmen for crew escape or swimmer deployment. The mk 48 is only 21 inches diameter but that looks like one could squeeze by, if it goes down at least one more level. That looks to be 8 or ten feet to the next hatch, and there is another level maby the same hight. So that could be the deck hatch and the pressure hull hatch thats open below. The next level after would be the Con, then mid level where the oval hatches facilitate the shift forward.

[greenman407]

Im sure that this is the hatch for people, or is it dual purpose?

[greenman407]

I think that each sub should have a couple, at least.

[Von Hilde]

Some deck guns are being replaced on some USN warships. Destroyers and Cruisers will be re fitted as they go thru the yard on schedulaled maintainance. There are some destroyers deployed already on picket patrols with the LaWS mounts I wonder if the pickett duty will be augmented by subs like in WWII That certainly would be an asset to have a smaller attack sub hanging out off the coast of {whatever} and be able to pop up and zap an out bound missile, with extreem accuracy with out detonating the nuke. And the big one is that it costs about 50cents a shot to fire up, as opposed to the 5" rapid fire cannon what cost$$$$ each round. And they arnt evn SMART ones. The laser works in fog smoke clouds but only direct line of sight so short range surface threats must at most, be on the horizon, but anything airborne can be targeted as long as its above the horrizon. There is an airforce version of the laws in a couple jumbo jets but its a dinasaur compaired to this puppy. They are presently testing carome shots using a satalite mounted mirror to bounce the shot over the horrizon from above. Talk about your Star Wars toys, boys. Of course there is no mention of how many lasers themselves, are already deployed on a dummy "private sector" communicatios satalite. Somebody somewhere already has the ability to knock a flea of an ant's butt with a right click, if TSHTF, last letter being Fan.

[Von Hilde]

Heres a rare look at a Boomer's torpedo room with the tubes open while in the yard, altho the boat is huge it's still a submarine, so there isnt any wasted space. This is the mid level deck, so its the widest, and its where all the crew served action is. This shows the two center tubes, theres one more on either side. the actual dimentions of the interior's hight and beam is restricted, and what other equipment is stashed up there is as well. The hull is 40ft wide at that section, and the 4 tubes are spaced equal distance, so its definatel not a small compartment. These huge boats can drop the 48s down virticlly by crane, till there is manuvering space, inside the pressure hull. The smaller attack boats still load them at an angle with the loading apparatus, that is assembled on the deck. Just like for the last hundred years of submarine warefare.

[Von Hilde]

the drawing doesnt show the hatch positions in the decks, but the deck below the con has large oval, fore and aft hatch, when the fish clears the verticle hatch in the con, the nose of the torpedo is tilted forward as it passes thru the oval hatch there is another in the next deck, slightly forward and the torp is tilted more onto the loading rack. then into the tube or slid aft twords the the crews mess deck for storage. m48s on the loading racks, the blankets and plactic nose covers are for protection, these are in the aft position.

[greenman407]

So we can see the hatch at the top and the Torp room way down below.Right in the middle somewhere, there must be a long narrow compartment made for just such a need as turning those EELS. Thanks Von Hilde for putting a visual perspective to it.

[greenman407]

Nice, Ill just enlarge a smidge.

[Von Hilde]

heres a cutaway of an Ohio. Artists conception, mind you, but it shows the approximate scale of the torpedos with the size of the verticle drop. The pressure hull has the small 30" hatch. They lower the fish to the torpedo romm 3 decks down, virticlly. The TM room has an overhead hatch that can facilitate the shift as well as the TM room deck which opens to the extra storage compartment.

[greenman407]

[Roddersuk]

Cavernous yes I suppose. In the RN boats the torpedo room has a removable deckhead of pierced aluminium planking that is lifted to facilitate torpedo loading so there is plenty of room to swivel the thing through 90º to the horizontal for stowing.

[Von Hilde]

The "mechanicle" or analog computer used for WWII fire controll systems was basiclly a big slide rule for the Trig problem of sending a balistic projectile down range to target, with more percission than iron sighting. Hence the term "Firing solution" The FC system on the battleships were huge, since they had to service several batteries, the 16" mounts the 5'x38 mounts and the 6"x50s. The antiaircraft weapons had their own seperate FC. The fleet subs had basiclly the same calculator, the TDC (what you yunguns call computers) but were downsized to facilitate close quarters. My youngest son is a Fire Controlman aboard a Ticonderoga class cruiser. His primary job is targeting the missiles, but he is a Navy sniper as well. The firing data computers he uses in both jobs are similar. The one in CIC is a standard computer station, the one used with the rifle, out is pocket size. The advances that have come along in artilliry targeting in the past 10 years have jumpped leaps and bounds. Its no longer just point and shoot and hope your math is good. With the advent of laser targeting and smart weapons you dont even have to aim in the direction you want the projectile to go. A remote targeting device such as a Preditor or a SOCOM Operator with a pointer, or hand launched model R/C mini plane or helo, paints the target with a dot, and the kid that fires the weapon could be in the middle of the ocean 1000 miles away. The kid that is actually flying the remote over the target could be in a room in Idaho, or the operator that launched the viehicle with a hand held joy stick. That thing about kids and computer games is dead on. In Dahlgrin Va the Navy has a weapons school, and they screene recruits that are exceptional in vidio gaming. About 80% of the training thruout the navy today is simulators, be it aircraft, tanks ships missiles or even boots on the ground shooter games. Mabe in the future kids could do their military duty at home, and we just send the machines of distruction to the bad guys. As for the Mk48 going in the Georgia, its 21" dia and about 20ft long. The Georgia is huge compaired to the old boats. Its 40 ft from kiel to deck, and 40 ft wide. The torpedo room is big. you could u turn a Kia in there boys.I posted some stuff about our RMMV testing awhile back, you must have missed it. Heres one down at NSWC key west, with my friend Ted, who is site mgr here. He is an avid R/C airplane buff on the weekends. It must be tuff having a job playing with multi million dollar r/c subs all day, so ya gotta relax on your timeoff

[greenman407]

So thats where being good at video games can be helpful.