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  • Slats
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    • Aug 2008
    • 1776

    #31
    Some more photos taken by Craig Talyor



    Going deep to duck under mine field damage






    John Slater

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    • Slats
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      • Aug 2008
      • 1776

      #32
      Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named
      John,

      When you slammed the throttle around in the test tank, did you observe any torque roll? If so what direction was the roll going ahead, and directon of the roll going astern?

      Excellent work. What a beast! You've done Joel proud.

      David
      No noticeable torque roll slamming the throttle around in any direction.
      Acceleration is a little scary and this boat's mass momentum needs a lot of getting use too. The Sturgeon I built could go from full ahead to a dead stop by a full astern command in all but a few metres. Seawolf pretty much ignores a full astern command to stop her- think B52 landing with no brakes and no tail chute and your pretty much get the idea. If you allow for that she is a joy to drive.

      J
      John Slater

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      • He Who Shall Not Be Named
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        • Aug 2008
        • 13390

        #33
        What a beautiful boat. How was depth-control? Did the stern planes have enough authority hands-off?

        David
        Who is John Galt?

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        • redboat219
          Admiral

          • Dec 2008
          • 3377

          #34
          Nice shot of the Tomahawk launch. How come the missile's broaching astern of the boat, isn't the launch unit located in the bow?
          Make it simple, make strong, make it work!

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          • Slats
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            • Aug 2008
            • 1776

            #35
            Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named
            What a beautiful boat. How was depth-control? Did the stern planes have enough authority hands-off?

            David
            An excellent question.

            Dealing first with pitch:
            The leveller held the boat beautifully, but only on a straight track. Throw the rudder over (either gently or hard), and the boat wanted to pitch up. I set my boat up so the rudder and rear planes are on the one RC gimbal so I can easily influence both channels via the single TX stick. Once a worked out what the boat wanted to do in the turns I simply took over from the leveller applying some rear down planes. This kept the boat under control.

            Depth control:
            The big surprise for me was how sensitive the bow planes were for depth changes. Slight touches on these and the boat reacted big time. Again took a little getting use to but easy to dial in little changes through the slider control I have on my Robbe FC16 radio. The rear planes auto leveller were often fighting hard against bigger depth changes, but the boat was never unmanageable in what was being asked of it.

            J
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            John Slater

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            • Slats
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              • Aug 2008
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              #36
              Originally posted by redboat219
              Nice shot of the Tomahawk launch. How come the missile's broaching astern of the boat, isn't the launch unit located in the bow?
              A good observation. The launch was from the 688I in the background, you can clearly see in the photo a fin missing from the TLAM which may be behind the missiles weird track. This system is that of Dr David Batagol. The system works well, but is prone to the odd trajectory screw up. Nonetheless its a great photo by Craig Taylor.
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              • ManOwaR
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                • Jul 2009
                • 217

                #37
                John,How was the reverse bell reaction when going at slower speeds or from a dead stop? Also did those anhedrals do their jobs cutting down the roll caused by the sail on hard submerged turns?Thanks,Joel
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                • Slats
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                  • Aug 2008
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by ManOwaR
                  John,How was the reverse bell reaction when going at slower speeds or from a dead stop? Also did those anhedrals do their jobs cutting down the roll caused by the sail on hard submerged turns?Thanks,Joel
                  Reverse bell from a dead stop or from slow speed ahead takes a few seconds to react. This boat does not like the concept of going backwards at all! But neither do I so it is not a problem. Having said that I do T bone a Typhoon and all astern on which you will see on the video has no effect.

                  The boat has a gentle bank in both low and high speed turns so I guess the Anhedrals are working, but I have always had them fitted so I have no clue as to what the boat would be like without them.

                  Video is coming - just got to get it chopped up a little and on to youtube. Hope to have some time on to do so in the next week or so.

                  J
                  John Slater

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                  • trout
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                    • Jul 2011
                    • 3657

                    #39
                    That is really a gorgeous sub! Really like the photos. You have one great looking Seawolf. Look forward to seeing the video!
                    Cheers,
                    Tom
                    If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                    • Slats
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                      • Aug 2008
                      • 1776

                      #40
                      Originally posted by trout
                      That is really a gorgeous sub! Really like the photos. You have one great looking Seawolf. Look forward to seeing the video!
                      Cheers,
                      Tom
                      Thanks Tom.

                      It is indeed a very impressive sub and has quite the "shark in the pool" menacing look about it. I cannot recommend Joel's sub kits and David and Mike's internal gear enough.
                      It is an unbeatable combination and exceptional value for money. If you have the means buy one.

                      Best
                      John
                      John Slater

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                      • ADDINGTON
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                        • Sep 2008
                        • 80

                        #41
                        Outstanding.
                        Congratulations John on being the first skipper of an HMK Seawolf.
                        The driving and handling characteristics you describe are much like I experienced in 1/96 scale.
                        Some quick questions:
                        What motor and gearing are you using?
                        Are you using the large or small LPB pump?
                        Excellent photos, and looking very forward to your motion picture posts.
                        Just beautiful work and thanks again for sharing,
                        Kerry

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                        • Slats
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                          • Aug 2008
                          • 1776

                          #42
                          Originally posted by ADDINGTON
                          Outstanding.
                          Congratulations John on being the first skipper of an HMK Seawolf.
                          The driving and handling characteristics you describe are much like I experienced in 1/96 scale.
                          Some quick questions:
                          What motor and gearing are you using?
                          Are you using the large or small LPB pump?
                          Excellent photos, and looking very forward to your motion picture posts.
                          Just beautiful work and thanks again for sharing,
                          Kerry
                          Thanks Kerry

                          The motor is what David supplies with the 3.5" SD - its the size of a 500 series type motor.
                          The gearing as per the SD (I think) is 5:1
                          Using the small LPB pump
                          Boat runs of a 7.2v battery supply of 3700mA which was good enough for around 2 hours patrol time.


                          J
                          John Slater

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                          • Slats
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                            • Aug 2008
                            • 1776

                            #43
                            Video is up
                            John Slater

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                            • trout
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                              • Jul 2011
                              • 3657

                              #44
                              It is showing, This video is private.
                              you might need to go in and share this.
                              If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                              • Slats
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                                • Aug 2008
                                • 1776

                                #45
                                Sorry never played with Youtube before dammed thing seems to default to "Private"
                                Try the video again.

                                Pt 2 is here

                                John Slater

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