British T-class

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I have a terminology question. What is the correct name for the D shaped holes in side of tower and super-structure, used as a Ladder, on exterior, from tower and deck, on the T-class? Many ships and boats have them.
Would just calling them 'Ladder cutouts' or 'a cutout-ladder' be correct?
Surely some of you Ol'-Salts know what they're called? ;)
My guess is that there are at least 2 names for them, the official and slang names?
See pic of T-class tower (they're down side of tower and in shield walls, forward of tower):
I was putting them into my model, but then realized I did not know what to call them, when my wife asked what those holes were for?

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Interesting photo collection!
I had not found that website.
Thanks,

[VanguardUK]

Saw this on a website & thought it may be of use

http://www.dockmuseum.org.uk/archive/browser.asp?deepcriteria=Submarine&searchtype=1

[VanguardUK]

No, the Keel is Dark grey, Upper works Green.

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Yes, that was a Keeper!

I noticed it appears to be black color and addition of the flag in these pics.
Is this after a Overhaul? ;)

[VanguardUK]

Some More..........Really shouldnt have sold this one!

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Great Info and pics.
Really like the guns!
I don't think I can do that with my periscopes, since they're being used for air-tube and antenna holders, and I think they would hit the SD when coming down (so not much travel), but that's a great idea. :)
I about have the tower assembled now, except for railings and hand-holds.
I'll start on the guns next.

[VanguardUK]

My periscopes were mounted on Corks & removable from below, on the surface the scope falls down but as you dive the buoyancy of the cork forces it to rise - this is an old trick that i was told about when I first started in Sub Building.
I like to ruin my boats at PD so always have at least one scope.

I found a few more pic's of my old T so here you go.

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No opinions on periscopes Up or Down huh?
Okay, I'll just do it MY way, but I don't want any complaining later. :D LOL :D

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VanguardUK,
I just noticed that you did not have periscopes up on your Tally-ho and it looked Great that way, so I think I'll leave them off also. :)
Hey, I can go under lower Bridges that way. :D LOL :D
As long as it clears the Jolly-Roger Flag-pole, that is! ;)
See pic:
(2nd pic is of another T-class model with them Up)
(3rd is Tally-ho, just back from patrol)

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There's another detail I can't decide about? :confused:
Should I install periscopes in Up position or Down?
I noticed most models have them Up but with actual WW2 subs they were not up much of the time, only for short periods.
I plan to route the Snort-intake tube and the camera-Xmitter antenna up thru them but there should enough height with just the base-tubes, I think?
But will it look complete and finished with them down?
:confused: :confused:

[Kazzer]

Very Interesting.


Yes, that's true, but when making them 'slippery' they made them Less Interesting in appearance. They then started to be the Boring dildo lookin' tubes that modern subs are.

I agree, I much prefer the WWII originals - they look 'dangerous' and fearsome.

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Very Interesting.

I think that by the end of the war, these guys were also beginning to realise that all this crap strapped to the hull caused a lot of noise in the water and made them easily detectable, and so started to shed all sorts of things, hence the advent of The Slippery T class.

Yes, that's true, but when making them 'slippery' they made them Less Interesting in appearance. They then started to be the Boring dildo lookin' tubes that modern subs are. :D LOL :D

Should I go put my Helmit on, after that statement? :D

[Kazzer]

I was trying to decide what to use to fabricate the voice-tube that goes from bridge to 4" gun, that was used on many T-class subs. But when looking at pic of Tally-ho I see that she did Not have one. It probably got shot off or knocked off during their many encounters with the enemy.

A lot of S class boats did not have that voice tube by design. According to Stephen Jenner (1st Lt HMS Sibyl) these sorts of things were left entirely to the individual captain who would request modifications to his boat after each patrol. He could even choose the paint job, if they had that color in the depot ship.

I think that by the end of the war, these guys were also beginning to realise that all this crap strapped to the hull caused a lot of noise in the water and made them easily detectable, and so started to shed all sorts of things, hence the advent of The Slippery T class.

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I was trying to decide what to use to fabricate the voice-tube that goes from bridge to 4" gun, that was used on many T-class subs. But when looking at pic of Tally-ho I see that she did Not have one. It probably got shot off or knocked off during their many encounters with the enemy.
Then I remembered that in the book they talked about the gunners not being able to hear anyone on the bridge during battle.
So that will save time, not having to make those delicate parts.
I also see that she did not have a Air-guard-radar-antenna that many of them had, in forward bridge area, which was also noted in book. Another delicate part not needed. :)
I'm definitely going to add the Victory-flag.
Click Pic: