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1/48 3D Printed USS Jimmy Carter
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Careful, Steve. If the coefficients of expansion between your WAA substrates are at any significant variance between themselves and your printed hull, the WAA's will evidence cracking as you quench your noon-day sun heated model into the cool waters of Red Clay Resort.
David
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I decided to change the appearance of the WAA's to be closer to scale. The two most aft ones have convex edges as is proper whereas the remaining four have concave edges. A simple reshaping of the edges with a Dremel sanding drum would be in most cases sufficient but the shapes of the WAA's is also off a bit for me. Having the Trumpeter 1/144 model as an example of what they should look like is a big help. After translating some measurements to the scale of my boat I cut some 0.020 thick Styrene sheet to the proper size and shape for the aft Port WAA. Because the aft most arrays have more of a contoured shape I knew they would be more a challenge to adhere the Styrene properly. I cut some blue foam camping mat to the same shape as the Styrene and using a couple small pieces of plywood clamped the foam tight to help shape the Styrene to the intended surface after applying black Starbond CA to glue it down. Worked like a charm. Once set I did a little grinding work around the edge with the Dremel to clean it up. The new array shape was smaller than the old array which left a large area to remove and was just too much to tackle with the Dremel so I got one of those vibrating saws and used it to cut the remaining array loose. Then it was a simple matter of some Rage Evercoat bondo, sanding, Nitro Stan, sanding and now it is proper. After I do the Starboard side the four remaining WAA's will be a snap. There is also some rework I am going to do regarding the torpedo doors that will come later.
The Trumpeter WAA I am trying to achieve.
Before... (Starboard side)
After... (Port side)
Close enough for me.
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Added control horns to the rudders and stern planes. I have a plan for how I am going to set up the linkages. Here is a short video of how the stern planes work.
And some pics of the inside of the tail cone. I haven't added set screws yet to the control horns. So far everything moves freely and the entire tail section can be easily disassembled.
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Originally posted by SubDude View Post
I sense more Tribute is in order at Subfest.
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Originally posted by SubDude View Post
I sense more Tribute is in order at Subfest.
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Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named View Post
Those six (three on each side) stand-off structures contain arrays of hydrophones that are electronically scanned. They are Wide Aperture Arrays (WAA). Passive sonar that, because of the geometry of their positions on the hull, can derive useful bearing AND range of local noise sources; lets you work up a useful solution without pinging yourself. This is the current offspring of the old PUFFS. Pretty slick. As the exterior structure of all modern American submarines are about 70% pressure hull you can't inlay the WAA hydrophones, that's why the arrays stand proud of the hull. Ugly, but serviceable.
Break out the Bondo and soften the edges between WAA structure and hull. A convex, not concave transition.
https://youtu.be/2O8gTIr4lys
David
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Originally posted by jphatton View PostHere is the link to the thread on the Thresher PUFFS arrays for reference
https://forum.rc-sub.com/forum/gener...one-end-plates
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Originally posted by jphatton View PostHere is the link to the thread on the Thresher PUFFS arrays for reference
https://forum.rc-sub.com/forum/gener...one-end-plates
Most appreciated.
David
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Here is the link to the thread on the Thresher PUFFS arrays for reference
https://forum.rc-sub.com/forum/gener...one-end-plates
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David, Steve,
For reference attached are plan and side view projections of the Thresher PUFF's array with dimensions from the Thresher CAD model I made a while back. These were based on photo interpretation / measurement from the Thresher wreck photo's so there is some uncertainty in the actual dimensions, so don't take the 1/4" resolution on the measurements as an indication of accuracy... I need to check my notes again to see if I made some better refinement of the measurements - also I made a post on the forum a few months back with some more details and assessment, I just need to find it again for cross reference (Steve, if I recall correctly this is what you used as reference for your model?).
The Thresher wreck photo's show that the PUFF's arrays were installed on Thresher at the time of her loss. Also there is a drydock photo of USS Barb showing the PUFF's installed, but no other photographic evidence they were installed on other boats of the class.
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Originally posted by SubDude View Post
Break out the Bondo and soften the edges between WAA structure and hull. A convex, not concave transition.
https://youtu.be/2O8gTIr4lys
David
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