USS Halibut (SSGN -587) General Arrangements drawings requested.

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  • Albacore 569
    Captain

    • Sep 2020
    • 619

    #1

    USS Halibut (SSGN -587) General Arrangements drawings requested.

    Anyone have detailed Navy General arraignment drawings and hull lines of USS Halibut SSGN 587?

    Intend to make a 3-d printed model in 1/96 of USS Halibut in pre and post 'project Jennifer' configurations for the Vallejo Naval an Historical Museum i
    n 1/96 scale.

    Ironically, I have a Jennifer drawing already.

    Also, I have drawings of a Skate class SSN for a model of Mare Island's first nuclear submarine
    USS Sargo (SSN- 583).

    I would like to print up a detailed 1/96 model of Sargo for the same museum. All three would be static display models. Halibut as SSGN, Halibut (Jennifer), and Sargo.

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  • Fishb0y
    Lieutenant Commander

    • Jul 2023
    • 115

    #2
    This has been my dream model to build. I have found a 3d model, pre-project Jennifer… but my 3d cad skills are left wanting…
    Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go on an overnight drunk, and in 10 days I'm going to set out to find the shark that ate my friend and destroy it. Anyone who wants to tag along is more than welcome.

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    • CC Clarke
      Commander

      • Aug 2020
      • 293

      #3
      I built a Halibut years ago, but it was for rendering - not printing, which is a completely different type of 3D model. I used it for X-mas cards sent to some guys I know who rode her. They had some great sea stories.

      I built the Azorian Capture Vehicle, -constructed by a subdivision of Lockheed Missiles and Space that specialized in classified maritime contracts. The same group built the Sea Shadow later in plain site inside the HMB-1. A former employee gave me a set of unclassified drawings of the Glomar Explorer. I built a portion of it, but it is one complex 3D model to build and other projects intervened.

      At the moment, I'm throwing my time at a design for a 3D-printed model of the Seawolf (my old boat) with a deadline for our upcoming reunion in Vegas this Fall. Normally I like to build in 1/72, but this will be in 1/144 in order to fit multiple copies in my car to hand out at the reunion.

      I considered donating my 1/72 post-conversion Parche to the MINSY museum, but it's headed to a different museum where it will get more foot traffic.

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      • Albacore 569
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        • Sep 2020
        • 619

        #4
        Thank you for sharing. still needing Hull lines plan profile, and sections of the Halibut pre-Jennifer. Post Jennifer or anything. Halibut is rather unique also in that the sub was also designed at Mare Island too. Most Government designs came out of Portsmouth NSY in Maine. Mare Iland built great ships of all kinds, but their submarines were first class. The list of most of the top scoring Fleet bots were by fate Mare Island built. Wahoo, Silversides, Tang. Richard O'Kane lived not far from Vallejo n the town of Sebastopol, California.

        My interest in Halibut and Parche and Seawolf are in the admiration few really know much of, what I call the genius of Mare Islands special project building and modifying submarines for 'special engineering' workforce I can get something slid on just the SSGN part f Halibuts carrier, the rest would all fall into place.

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        • CC Clarke
          Commander

          • Aug 2020
          • 293

          #5
          I'll forward some drawings to get you started and a couple of tips to keep it real later today.

          Substitute "Special Engineering" for Ocean Engineering. Code 120 (The OE group) built most of the modifications in a large, pink building hall. For hull sections, they started with 1:1 wooden mock-ups.

          CC

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          • Albacore 569
            Captain

            • Sep 2020
            • 619

            #6
            Called the Submarine force Library and Museum in Groton, the Washington Naval Yard in Washington DC, and the National Archives in San Francisco, where most Mare Island docs that are public maybe kept. They had a wealth f information on Tang and Wahoo that no one was aware of. Amain. So far waiting for any reply.

            The email fr the Natioal Archives in San Bruno Califrnia (San Francisco) is:

            sanbruno.archives@nara.gov.
            Last edited by Albacore 569; 05-01-2025, 12:03 PM.

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            • Albacore 569
              Captain

              • Sep 2020
              • 619

              #7
              Originally posted by CC Clarke
              I'll forward some drawings to get you started and a couple of tips to keep it real later today.

              Substitute "Special Engineering" for Ocean Engineering. Code 120 (The OE group) built most of the modifications in a large, pink building hall. For hull sections, they started with 1:1 wooden mock-ups.

              CC
              Thank you, CC Clarke. Sent you private message email through website with address information.

              Steven

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              • CC Clarke
                Commander

                • Aug 2020
                • 293

                #8
                Originally posted by Albacore 569
                Thank you for sharing. still needing Hull lines plan profile, and sections of the Halibut pre-Jennifer. Post Jennifer or anything. Halibut is rather unique also in that the sub was also designed at Mare Island too. Most Government designs came out of Portsmouth NSY in Maine. Mare Iland built great ships of all kinds, but their submarines were first class. The list of most of the top scoring Fleet bots were by fate Mare Island built. Wahoo, Silversides, Tang. Richard O'Kane lived not far from Vallejo n the town of Sebastopol, California.

                My interest in Halibut and Parche and Seawolf are in the admiration few really know much of, what I call the genius of Mare Islands special project building and modifying submarines for 'special engineering' workforce I can get something slid on just the SSGN part f Halibuts carrier, the rest would all fall into place.
                Don't hold your breath for any OE-related drawing releases. FOIA petitions are N/A. They are vaulted elsewhere and have review dates for de-classification that exceed our lifespans. (That's just for review, not de-classification dates.)

                There are still classified documents dating from WW II!

                I met Admiral O'Kane. Of all the cool people's hands I ever shook, his was by far, the most memorable to me.

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                • CC Clarke
                  Commander

                  • Aug 2020
                  • 293

                  #9
                  Nothing in my inbox yet Stephen.

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                  • Albacore 569
                    Captain

                    • Sep 2020
                    • 619

                    #10
                    Originally posted by CC Clarke
                    Nothing in my inbox yet Stephen.
                    I thought you had something for me. Sorry. I misunderstood? I sent you my contact information in web site email here.

                    I meat Admiral O'Kane to at the Mare Island officers club once. Got his autograph. He was with sub friends, Fellow kippers. He had Alzheimer's and mistook me for a sub buddy and asked when we were going to play golf again. I looked at his friend and got the eye contact t just go along. I understood. Shook his hand too.

                    I know about the FOIA and declassifications. In the UK it is is usually 50 years. Years ago, they told me the latest the National Maritime Museum had on their latest UK subs was HMS Meteorite, HMS Explorer and Excalibur That was before the 50 years on HMS Dreadnought even but sure anything can be extended. You never know what turns up. I'll keep whacking the bushes.

                    The technology in your boat Seawolf, along with Halibut & Parche in some form I'm sure exists still in some form in USS Jimmy Carter SSN-23, so never expect anything remotely. But I am not interested in any of that anyways. Just a plan profile, sections of the SSGN version of Halibut only.

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                    • CC Clarke
                      Commander

                      • Aug 2020
                      • 293

                      #11
                      Post #7 from you: "Sent you private message email through website with address information."

                      Post # 10 from you: " I thought you had something for me. Sorry. I misunderstood? I sent you my contact information in web site email here."

                      Nada. Zip.

                      What we have here is a failure to communicate, or a problem with the PM on this site, (which seems doubtful at this point.)

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                      • Albacore 569
                        Captain

                        • Sep 2020
                        • 619

                        #12
                        Originally posted by CC Clarke
                        I'll forward some drawings to get you started and a couple of tips to keep it real later today.

                        Substitute "Special Engineering" for Ocean Engineering. Code 120 (The OE group) built most of the modifications in a large, pink building hall. For hull sections, they started with 1:1 wooden mock-ups.

                        CC

                        I'll forward some drawings to get you started and a couple of tips to keep it real later today.

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                        • CC Clarke
                          Commander

                          • Aug 2020
                          • 293

                          #13
                          After I posted that @1247 and started sifting through my collection of reference materials, I saw your reply posted (<than 20 min later) @ 1308 requesting me to check my inbox, and the rest is history.

                          I'll keep this short and recommend you google for identical Halibut drawings that are cleaner than the ones you have. It's really that easy and should be the first step when researching anything submarine-related.

                          Good luck.

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                          • JHapprich
                            Captain

                            • Oct 2017
                            • 883

                            #14
                            https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/thr...halibut.23541/

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                            • JHapprich
                              Captain

                              • Oct 2017
                              • 883

                              #15
                              https://www.reddit.com/r/submarines/...l=de&rdt=41339

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