Bronco Type XXIII in 1/35th scale

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

vacuform. Mike's working a distribution deal with the guy as we talk.

David

[goshawk823]

I'm thinking rack-and-pinion for the rudder. This thing is most do'able as r/c.

This plastic model kit (traditional injection type) at 1/35 and Mike is working to secure 1/72 kits of the Type-21 and Type-9... Soon the lake will be safe for National Socialism (yikes!).

David

Hmmm... David, somewhere I missed news of a Type XXI in 1/72... is this a new plastic kit, or a vacumformed one, or what?

[Scott T]

Oh that second or third job should cover these new needs. Scuba Diving
I understand the new physical cliff tax bill doesn't raise taxes on submarine model purchases.The Titanic

[goshawk823]

with Bronco's XXIII and Revell's Type IX, all my lunch money is going to be going towards plastic kits.

[Outrider]

I seem to remember a Type XXIII project in 1:72 that somebody way high on the food chain started a post on...

http://forum.sub-driver.com/showthread.php?805-Type-XXIII-U-Boat-Alanger-or-Special-Navy&highlight=special+navy

A type XXIII in 1:35 would probably be better than the 1:72 version, but the 1:72 version would be a fine complement to the 1:72 Type VII and Gato kits already on offer.

Just sayin'...

BTW, Bronco has a good rep in the scale tank world for static models. I'm looking forward to their 1:35 Type XXIII. Perhaps if it's successful, we'll see other small subs, like the 206s, 209s, etc. picked up in this scale.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

I'm thinking rack-and-pinion for the rudder. This thing is most do'able as r/c.

This plastic model kit (traditional injection type) at 1/35 and Mike is working to secure 1/72 kits of the Type-21 and Type-9... Soon the lake will be safe for National Socialism (yikes!).

David

[greenman407]

Welcome Warpatroller, Nice to have you aboard. My name will also be on the list to get a Bronco 23. Looks detailed. Detailing is Great, therefore good.

[herrmill]

Howdy Steve & glad to see your post!

Having known you always as a Type 23 fan, I am certain Mr. David will be more than happy to have any research material come his way towards building something nice for Bronco's upcoming new release.

[Warpatroller]

the 32nd Parallel was the first mass-produced r/c submarine kit that was a success -- commercially and as a product. A bold, important step by Simon and Sheila Smith that advanced the craft light-years ahead of where it was before that kits introduction.

32nd Parallel is long gone, but Simon's work stands as a corner-stone of the state-of-the-art as we know it today. That kit got many into the game and fostered further developments.

David

The 32nd Parallel XXIII got me into the game as well. I just haven't really started playing the game yet.. Haven't decided what I am going to do with my XXIII, and have been in no hurry to do so. I'm in my 1933 to 1939 planning stage and waiting to see if a more modern and better detailed XXIII, that doesn't take a GRP wizard to build and detail, might materialize. The ultimate XXIII model for me, would be a 1:16 scale version, about 7 feet long. It would have a massive tower and just be bad ass looking in the water! Two 6-inch WTC units, twin ballast tanks + trim tanks, with gel-cel batteries, retractible snorkel and persiscope. And of course, 1:16 electric torpedos.. With GPS navigation system inside the WTC, programmable remotely from an iPhone. And have it sail across the Atlantic autonomously. Launched from the Norfolk Naval Shipyard area, near where I went to school at ODU. Ok, enough dreaming and back to reality..

Four years ago, I bought an original XXIII Deluxe Kit (gas ballast, static diver) with the gas Torpedo Launcher and 7 torpedoes. All unassembled, in the original box, from the original owner.. It has two sets of torpedo tubes, as the first set had solder clogging the air passage in one tube, rendering it unusable. Being a 1995 produced copy, this one has a better detailed, cast resin, snorkel head with the twin shafts, as compared to the single shaft snorkel rig that the 80's version of the kit came with. All the original instructions (and instruction addendums), invoice and construction plans drawn up by Simon Smith. I even have the original 1800mAh Nicad Battery sticks that came with the kit, along with the legendary Pittman 40mm drive motor. It is such a complete example of 32nd Parallel RC Submarine history, that I have been reluctant to cut out the stock pressure box to replace it with a modern WTC.. I kind of look at it as taking a classic car and removing its original engine, substituting it with a modern engine (butchering it in the process).

The engineering that went into this kit was extensive. The Pittman motor even uses a vibration dampening rubber mounting assembly. Who thinks of vibration and noise reduction in an RC Submarine, Simon Smith did back in 1984 when this kit debuted. It is not the best kit when it comes to accurate scale details, but it's still a nice kit.

I just heard about the Bronco kit today, and it has perked my interest. If it is anything like their 1:35 Seehund kit, the detail should be pretty good and fairly accurate. I thought, this would be perfect for a fittings kit engineered by The Wizard (who's posts I first started reading on the net about 7 years ago). A fittings kit that incorporates an internal rudder mechanism (something the 32nd P. lacks) and a more scale accurate screw. The 32nd P. screw does not look correct and is too small in diameter at 44mm (was probably done to accommodate the 40mm Pittman in direct drive configuration, as the early kits had a 40mm screw). I think it should be closer to 56mm for 1:32 (should be about 51mm for 1:35). The kit's big twin shaft snorkel, could perhaps be replaced with a functional unit for the SAS sub-driver system..Would have external functional snorkel, instead of hiding it inside the tower.

I have some drawings and photos that could be made available to help The Wizard engineer his fittings for the Bronco XXIII. I am kind of a Type XXIII geek, so I've spend a lot of time examining XXIII related stuff.. It would be cool to see this turn into the WWII U-Boat equivalent of the recent Moebius Skipjack conversion. Both models are similar in overall length, single screw, with large towers. The Skipjack only being a couple inches longer. 1:35 G7e torpedoes could come from the Bronco Seehund kit.. Speaking of the Seehund, how about a fittings kit for the Bronco Seehund? If you did that 1:230 Skipjack, the Seehund should be possible, it is about 12 inches long but a narrower hull..

Steve

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

.... we now resume sheduled programming

[Tugfan]

Touche, sir.

My pleasure.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Dave walks to town because his ego won't fit in the car. :pop

Touche, sir.

[Tugfan]

I can do anything (another crash of thunder sound-effect).

Trouble is getting the rest of you Slacker's to catch up with me!

David

Dave walks to town because his ego won't fit in the car. :pop

[Tugfan]

When I retire next year I'll have plenty of time to play.

[MFR1964]

Piece of cake (bowshot, and snapshot to be sure)

Manfred.