Bronco Type XXIII in 1/35th scale

[Outrider]

Thanks for the update. The 1:35 Type XXIII is an incredibly fortunate development for this hobby. It's really something extraordinary. Bronco picked an interesting subject. The size of the model seems to be at a real sweet spot. Big, but not too big. Polystyrene is easy to work with for novices. Kit pricing is great, especially considering what you're getting. Others must agree...look how quickly this thread built up. No pressure, but there are clearly plenty of folks interested in bringing this kit to life. I think this one is going to be big.

Nice to hear that you are continuing to develop the smaller SDs. Hopefully the -214 is a good test bed. Any photos of sea trials? I'm still convinced that a small sub has plenty of merits...some times lack of size matters. And kit supply for the 1:144 boats seems pretty stable as compared to the 1:72 market. So, hopefully, this effort will be of some worth.

BTW, when Revell initially killed the 1:72 Type VIIs, I thought the day of big sub kits from the industry's major players was about to pass. But we have one of the Revell Type VIIs back (any stock, though?), a promised Revell 1:72 Type IX, the Moebius 1:72 Skipjack, and now the 1:35 Bronco. Maybe things are not so bad, after all.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

I'll have a kit in hand about this time next week. Then, all things will be revealed. I have not forgotten your Type-214, Jim. The 'new' static type SD is being checked out in it. Bout time I caught up on this and other projects I've promised guys.

[Outrider]

It will. And thank you for your effort digging out the information for us.

Any other discrepancies in the kit that will get fixed via fittings?

Fixed torpedo doors or moveable? (I know you're thinking about it...)

Does the polystyrene in the hull seem thick enough to give a good service life in RC use?

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

It will. And thank you for your effort digging out the information for us.

[Warpatroller]

Yes, HWSNBN is still slogging away in The Cave. I'm waiting on the photos for the Fittings Kit before I load the info to the web site.

HWSNBN has already completed the masters for the XXIII fittings kit, including the almighty propeller?? He indicated, only three days ago, that he did not even have a kit in hand yet.. I know he works miracles, but I didn't know he was that fast!! He needs a kit in his hands to size things up properly!

Based on info on the real boat's prop, that I obtained a few years ago, I came up with 56mm for the prop at 1:32 scale. Which would be 51mm at 1:35. My 32nd P. boat's stock prop is 44mm (which definitely looks too small in diameter when mounted on the tail). 32P originally outfitted the boat with an even smaller 40mm prop, being directly driven by a 40mm diameter 12VDC Pittman motor. They subsequently enlarged the prop to 44mm. They probably were trying to size the prop for the direct drive Pittman motor, instead of making it to scale with the real boat's prop. It has the helical twist, but otherwise does not look like the real deal.

I'd like to know what David has decided on for his replacement prop diameter.. When he is done, I expect to see the best model XXIII propeller constructed by man (or God)! One that captures the look of the photos I posted!

[Kazzer]

Mike, I checked out the web page and didn't see anything regarding a fittings kit from David for the XXIII?

Like Outrider, I'm still interested and waiting for the 1" subdriver and fittings kit for the 214 and other small sub's!

Regards,

Myron

Yes, HWSNBN is still slogging away in The Cave. I'm waiting on the photos for the Fittings Kit before I load the info to the web site.

I presume you mean the 1.25" Sub-driver? That's been available in two forms for some time.

http://www.sub-driver.com/sub-drivers.html

The single/dual prop unit is a static diver

http://www.sub-driver.com/sub-drivers/1-25-single-dual-prop-sub-driver-kit.html

And the dynamic diver is

http://www.sub-driver.com/sub-drivers/1-25-sub-driver-kit.html

[Kazzer]

Mike - I placed an order for the Bronco XXIII kit today. For two of them! I hope you have them in stock and ready to go :biggrin:

By they way, you have the model listed on your site as being 1:32 scale, it is actually 1:35 scale.. Just a typo I assume..

Steve

Yes, they should be going out on Friday. Thanks

And I spotted my error only an hour or so ago, but thanks for letting me know. It's definitely 1:35

[Warpatroller]

Mike - I placed an order for the Bronco XXIII kit today. For two of them! I hope you have them in stock and ready to go :biggrin:

By they way, you have the model listed on your site as being 1:32 scale, it is actually 1:35 scale.. Just a typo I assume..

Steve

[vital.spark]

Mike, I checked out the web page and didn't see anything regarding a fittings kit from David for the XXIII?

Like Outrider, I'm still interested and waiting for the 1" subdriver and fittings kit for the 214 and other small sub's!

Regards,

Myron

[Outrider]

I wonder if Mike sold out of these Bronco kits today... I got an e-mail that kits were in stock. This thread has had a lot of activity in a short period of time, something that makes me think folks are ready to buy.

The interesting news is that there's a package with a fittings kit and a SubDriver on offer, so David is now officially behind on two more projects. There really is no rest for the wicked, is there?

We were getting ever so close on the little Type 214...but my guess is that the 1:35 Type XXIII will sell very well, something that seems not to have happened with the smaller boats. I'm hopeful this Bronco kit will turn in to a good entry level project. The hull is reasonably priced and the size seems pretty good. (Big enough to see, not too big to haul around.)

@warpatroller: Thanks for the nice Type XXIII photos. I have the 1:72 kits around because I think the Type XXIII to be an excellent, though obviously limited offensively, submarine. I'm hopeful these would make it into the "rotation" as they are such a nice complement to the Type VII (and, hopefully, Type IX) boats from Revell in 1:72.

[Kazzer]

http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.co...ws/bronco.html

David, there is no rest for you....... Mike are you going to carry this one?

Yuuuup!

CLICK ON THIS ONE!!!!

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

We gotta get some in-house, Mike .... God! I love spending your money! I'm working (with Manfred's input) up a specific 2.5" SD for this kit.

[Kazzer]

Good stuff. Yes, a new wheel is a must. No helical twist -- how did they miss that?! We were to receive a test-shot. But, that never happened. I still don't have a kit in hand.

It's their loss! Some people never learn.

[MFR1964]

Steve is right about the version they made, there will be a lot changed on my boat, i'll go for the late version with the different floodholes at the bow, and will add some more on the conningtower, which also misses the horseshoe shaped resquebouy including the rack, there is some work to do.

Manfred.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Good stuff. Yes, a new wheel is a must. No helical twist -- how did they miss that?! We were to receive a test-shot. But, that never happened. I still don't have a kit in hand.