Okay, Color is Better to VTVOS 4 Window Seaview?

[Rick Teskey]

Watch the movie color 8 window and Barbra dancing as well

[Das Boot]

Just watched the black and white episodes. The opening clearly shows the no vent side.

[Das Boot]

Nope, this was from the 1st season opening. No vents starboard.

[Alucard]

Wow, they should have just added the holes on both sides but flipping the print around is a good second choice, I would never have thought of that.

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

Dave, where are the limber holes on the back of the starboard side? The port side has front and rear, but the starboard side only has front. Is that because the Seaview was never photographed on that side?

That's right. If they needed imagery of the non-filming side -- the demands of the storyboard dictating left-to-right, right-to-left -- then the Editor would flop the burning print to the copy print.

[Das Boot]

Dave, where are the limber holes on the back of the starboard side? The port side has front and rear, but the starboard side only has front. Is that because the Seaview was never photographed on that side?

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

That last photo, on the cover of T. Sturgeon"s Novelization?

I remember Ray Mason discussing in the 90's.
He wanted to convert one of your SKIPJACK hulls to mimic it if memory serves. If it could be done, Ray could do it!

Ray...do IT!!!

Ray and I have been torturing each other over threats of starting that project for nearly two decades now. God Damnit, Ray... I'm waiting on you to slam that gauntlet into my puss. I double-dog dare ya!

[QuarterMaster]

Ray...do IT!!!

...and BTW, he still OWE'S us an ATRAGON!!

[QuarterMaster]

That last photo, on the cover of T. Sturgeon"s Novelization?

I remember Ray Mason discussing in the 90's.
He wanted to convert one of your SKIPJACK hulls to mimic it if memory serves. If it could be done, Ray could do it!

Ray...do IT!!!

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

The question was when they changed from eight window to four window, was the color of the Seaview changed also? I know the four window episodes were in color, and the eight window were black and white, but I’m just wondering if the color was changed between the seasons to account for now being in color. A secondary question is why they did away with the deadlights on the sail? Most US submarines, if not all, had deadlight windows on the sail, so why did they do away with them on the Seaview? I’m sure our holy leader Merriman might know the answer to the question.

The significant structural differences between the 17-footer as it was for the movie and as it was reconfigured for the TV show was the entire replacement of the bow and (very likely) the sail. Artifacts leading to that conclusion is the existence of a butt-joint backed up by a doubler plate of GRP matt at the bow graft line between new bow and hull; and the nonexistence of any internal indication of a back-fill to obliterate the deadlight openings at the leading edge of the sail.

[Alucard]

Now I understand, I think the color is a little different between the Movie and TV sub's and yes, I know they used the 8 window one on TV as well as the 4 window one. Good question about the deadlights.

[Das Boot]

The question was when they changed from eight window to four window, was the color of the Seaview changed also? I know the four window episodes were in color, and the eight window were black and white, but I’m just wondering if the color was changed between the seasons to account for now being in color. A secondary question is why they did away with the deadlights on the sail? Most US submarines, if not all, had deadlight windows on the sail, so why did they do away with them on the Seaview? I’m sure our holy leader Merriman might know the answer to the question.

[Das Boot]

What the heck are you talking about, Casey? Are you drunk?

Bob, it’s called stupid voice recognition that doesn’t work.

[Alucard]

If you are saying it is better in the color episodes, yes color adds to it.

[RCSubGuy]

What the heck are you talking about, Casey? Are you drunk?