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**greenman407** · 04-14-2011, 09:21 AM

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**Outrider** · 04-26-2011, 02:30 PM

I love the Type XXIII photos. The first ones posted show training subs. The recce mark is the white band around the turm (sail). The ones of U-171 are of Hecht, which spent about 10 years in Davy Jones' Locker before being re-floated and refurbished. With two torpedos loaded externally, these were among the more practical mini-subs of the war. Though much bigger than anything the British, Italians, or Japanese used as a mini-sub, these were far more successful for general purpose use. These were probably pretty maneuverable, since the rudder is in the prop-wash and because it's got fore and aft dive planes both situated well below the waterline.

**greenman407** · 04-26-2011, 02:40 PM

You mentioned the stripe around the sail as being white. Is it accurate that the type 21s had yellow stripes around theirs?

**Outrider** · 04-26-2011, 02:56 PM

I just did a quick Internet search. Looks like the consensus is that the prototypes--the real subs, not models--had yellow, not white stripes. I've seen a few Type XXIII models with the stripes in white. That said, I can't remember seeing a color photo of a Type XXIII, so I can see why somebody would have chosen white based off a B&W photo. In B&W, the stripe looks white. One of the big hazards of this game. Takes a lot of research and you can still get some fundamentals wrong...

**greenman407** · 04-26-2011, 03:11 PM

I only brought it up because I built the little Revell type 21 1/144 scale and the decal sheet came with a yellow stripe. So I thought it possible that maybe the 23s had white stripes. Maybe Hitler began to frown on yellow.

**greenman407** · 04-27-2011, 09:31 AM

**greenman407** · 04-28-2011, 09:40 AM

The death of a U-Boat as seen by its attacker

**greenman407** · 04-28-2011, 09:43 AM

The Turkish Bitiray, the most successful Foreign Uboat in German service. It sank seven ships

**greenman407** · 04-30-2011, 08:14 AM

**greenman407** · 04-30-2011, 08:18 AM

Sonar image of a U boat half buried on the bottom. Notice the four escape shafts on the starboard side of the hull. They should be on the port side , showing that this image is reversed. The shape indicates a type 7. Good definition for a sonar picture. Im quite impressed!