Russian submarine id

[roedj]

FWIW, Foxtrot, b-37, the one shown all "blowed up" in the the other thread was known to be involved in the Cuban crisis.

Dan

[Rpmtech1]

What a great model!

[greenman407]

Gantu, Can you tell us where we can get a full plan set of the Borei?

[He Who Shall Not Be Named]

STOP!!!!

I know where this is going! ....

[greenman407]

Oh Tisk Tisk Dave

[greenman407]

On to the diesel powered Ballistic missle submarines. There were only two.

ZULU(modified) Project AV611
Golf project 629

Back on page one we listed diesel powered Hunter/Killer subs. The second one was ZULU. They took six of them and stuck two Marinized versions of the Scud missle in to the sails and called it the worlds first(so they say)Ballistic Missle Submarines. They were a stopgap measure until something more purpose built came along.

[greenman407]

Next up was the GOLF. It is said to be a enlarged and heavily modified Foxtrot. It carried three more advanced missles and were to be launched at 15 knots with the submarine on the surface. There were 23 built for the USSR and China built one of her own, which is reportably still in service. One of them, K-129, is of project Azorian fame. A whole squadron of them was to be involved in the Cuban missle crisis but at the last minute somebody changed their mind. As it was one Zulu and five Foxtrots crossed the Atlantic. Oh yes, you might want to look at this:http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/slbm/629.htm
The Chinese Golf, recently rebuilt.

[greenman407]

There was one Whiskey submarine that had a vertical launch tube attached aft of her sail. S-229 carried out tests with a dummy rocket but was never used for anything but testing. This was known as Whiskey Single Cylinder.

[greenman407]

Diesel powered cruise missle submarines came also into vogue. There were only three.
Once again they borrowed a existing submarine and made an adaptation for two of them.
Whiskey Twin Cylinder project 644
Whiskey Long Bin project 665
Julliet project651


There were six Whiskey Twin Cylinders. They had two Shaddock missles housed in two seperate silos , hence the name. They were raised and fired over the stern. In the picture you will be able to note the blast shields forward of the tubes directly behind the sail.

[greenman407]

Then came the project 665 Whiskey Long Bin. These are the weirdest things Ive ever seen. Probably the same for the sailers that sailed them. They were said to be extremely difficult to manuever and ungainly. You can imagine the drag penalty that such a huge sail made.That sail housed four forward firing Shaddock missles. They fired upward at 14 degrees. Only six were made.

[greenman407]

Juliett ,project 651 was a 16 boat fleet. They carried 4 p-5 or P-6 Shaddock missiles in silos that faired into the deck and were raised before firing(hopefully). They also were diesel powered and were coated with 2" thick rubber tiles all over. They were considered a success, so much so that one of its future replacements would be modelled after it. The Shaddocks were nuclear capable.

[greenman407]

Here you can see the bottom of the missle silo and the door that opens to allow exhaust to escape. You can also see the purpose built exhaust deflectors built into the hull.

From under the superstructure comes this picture of some of the stiffeners for support of the deck and some bottles all manifolded together, perhaps containing oxygen.


Sonar dome

Torpedo detail. Note the twin counter-rotation props.

More info on this sub can be found at:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juliett_class_submarine Here is a link to a post that I did on this sub a while back:http://s181686668.onlinehome.us/phpB...hp?f=4&t=10080 And another one on a relic that I picked up on part of its missile fire control system:http://s181686668.onlinehome.us/phpB...hp?f=4&t=10096

[greenman407]

Thats it for diesel powered Russian submarines as far as post war is concerned. There were a few other special purpose diesel submarines built but they will be handled seperately later. Now on to Nuclear powered Submarines and we might as well start at the Hunter/Killer group also known at times as Attack submarines.:biggrin:

[greenman407]

The Hunter/Killer list for Nuclear powered craft goes like this:

November project 627
Victor project 671
Alpha project 705
Mike project 685
Sierra project 945
Akula project 971
Yasen/Graney Project 885

[greenman407]

November, the name kinda reminds you of Red October doesnt it?
Well the November was referred to by the name project 627. It was the Kremlins answer to the USS Nautilus. In some ways it was more advanced and in others....well.........
It had two compact and short life span nuclear water reactors, two variable pitch propellors and eight torpedo tubes. There was one project 645 that had a liquid metal(lead bismuth) reactor that caused many problems. It is said that the Novembers were the first to install anti-sonar coating over the entire boat. They were purposly not used in the Cuban missile crisis because of their low reliability at the time. There were 14 built in all. The first one sailed on July 4th 1958.
This particular unit had a very large sonar dome

In the background you can see that this November has a much smaller dome. In fact I have seen drawings showing that some of them had no dome at all.

K-159 on the way to the s**** yard after being refloated. Wow! this editting progam doesnt like the word s****, you know, salvage yard. Stupid computers.