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  • reddevil
    Commander
    • Jun 2009
    • 346

    #1

    1/72 skipjack

    Hello. Back on the line again. As REVELL 1/72 SKIPJACK is sold out here in Spain, and there's one from MOEBIUS available at AMAZON, want to know: Are they more or less the same in quality? Thank you in advance.
  • greenman407
    Admiral
    • Feb 2009
    • 7530

    #2
    I have been told that they are identical. Just the box art is different
    IT TAKES GREAT INTELLIGENCE TO FAKE SUCH STUPIDITY!

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    • vital.spark
      Commander

      • May 2010
      • 304

      #3
      They are Identical. Moebious launched the kit which was later picked up and sold as Revell. I have a Revell boxed kit and what surprised me as the Revell Box is much larger then needed because the used the same box size as for the 1/72 Gato and type VII C!! I was Lucky enough to visit David as he was correcting the plug masters!

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      • reddevil
        Commander
        • Jun 2009
        • 346

        #4
        Thank you for the info. I've found one in spanish AMAZON for only 60 €! And are trying to convince The One Who Rules (my wife) to have it as Christmas present. But are also considering 1/35 ITALERI S100 schnellboote. Have to make up my mind.

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        • He Who Shall Not Be Named
          Moderator

          • Aug 2008
          • 13404

          #5
          To clarify a bit: Moebius simply sold a bunch of bagged parts to Revell, who then packaged them to suite their trade-style -- the changes involved instructions, decals, and box. Moebius owns the property. Revell bought the bagged parts from Moebius and sold the kits under the Revell banner. A common practice in the plastic model kit game.

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          David
          Who is John Galt?

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          • greenman407
            Admiral
            • Feb 2009
            • 7530

            #6
            Dave, have you heard any "rumblings" about Moebius or Revell coming out with any more large kits?
            IT TAKES GREAT INTELLIGENCE TO FAKE SUCH STUPIDITY!

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            • vital.spark
              Commander

              • May 2010
              • 304

              #7
              I'm glad to see David is up and running! It's about time you start listening to Ellie!

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              • reddevil
                Commander
                • Jun 2009
                • 346

                #8
                Perhaps a 1/96 VIRGINIA or ASTUTE? Look at what ENGEL has done with his new AKULA II.

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                • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                  Moderator

                  • Aug 2008
                  • 13404

                  #9
                  Originally posted by vital.spark
                  I'm glad to see David is up and running! It's about time you start listening to Ellie!
                  Yeah! Tell me about it. However, just as I'm discharged and home for a moment, I'm re-admitted to have her foot surgically extracted from my substantial ass.

                  David
                  Who is John Galt?

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                  • greenman407
                    Admiral
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 7530

                    #10
                    Originally posted by greenman407
                    Dave, have you heard any "rumblings" about Moebius or Revell coming out with any more large kits?
                    Actually what I meant was more "New" kits, as in different models. You know....like the Wilhelm Bauer in 1/72
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                    • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                      Moderator

                      • Aug 2008
                      • 13404

                      #11
                      Originally posted by greenman407

                      Actually what I meant was more "New" kits, as in different models. You know....like the Wilhelm Bauer in 1/72
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                      I would love to see a big-scale plastic model kit of that boat, Mark.

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                      I was morally obligated to keep the Moebius inside-baseball, business stuff to myself; not doing so would have confused and muddied the waters of commerce for my Boss. Anything I said at the time, as to success/failure of SKPJACK sales, would influence peoples buying decisions. So I remained mute on the subject. On that job I was the research and (to a small degree) kit designer for Moebius, not their PR office.

                      Now, several years later, I feel free to be more candid when addressing the question of further big-scale submarine models from Moebius.

                      Will they produce more of this stuff? No, not likely.

                      The initial Moebius release (to date there has only been the one pressing for the Moebius brand) saw an unenthusiastic sales rate -- took at least a year for them to clear the warehouse of the cases of kits the Chinese pooped out for them. Keeping inventory in stock costs money. Little profit was realized from the product. From what I gather the SKIPJACK kit signaled the end of the Moebius brief embracement of our tiny piece of the buying public pie. The Revell buy likely put Moebius in the black, but not by much. People today want cars and SW crap, not cold-war era submarines.

                      (anyway, soon people will be 3D printing their own assembled, painted and weathered display piece. And so ends an industry, not to mention the Craft it once served).

                      We'll see a SKIPJACK re-issue -- as there is a small but consistent demand for the product -- under the Moebius, Revell or other kit 'manufacturers' label sometime in the future. But, don't camp out near the mail-box waiting for it.

                      So, With the recent Linberg disaster (the I-53 and I-20 monstrosities),

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                      and the poor Moebius SKIPJACK sales, it's unlikely any major league kit producer will dip their toes into the big-scale plastic model submarine kit game again. However, maturing as I write this, is an outfit working to raise the funds to produce big-scale plastic model submarine kits suitable for conversion to r/c. There is hope on the horizon.

                      (Kevin, call your office).

                      David
                      Who is John Galt?

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                      • greenman407
                        Admiral
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 7530

                        #12
                        DRAT,DRAT, and DOUBLE DRAT!!!.................I will settle for the HOPE you mentioned
                        IT TAKES GREAT INTELLIGENCE TO FAKE SUCH STUPIDITY!

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                        • Ken_NJ
                          Captain

                          • Sep 2014
                          • 974

                          #13
                          Originally posted by He Who Shall Not Be Named
                          and the poor Moebius SKIPJACK sales, it's unlikely any major league kit producer will dip their toes into the big-scale plastic model submarine kit game again. However, maturing as I write this, is an outfit working to raise the funds to produce big-scale plastic model submarine kits suitable for conversion to r/c. There is hope on the horizon.
                          Glad I got my Moebius SJ earlier in the year when I could. Just have to wait for funds to get the inards.

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                          • He Who Shall Not Be Named
                            Moderator

                            • Aug 2008
                            • 13404

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Ken_NJ

                            Glad I got my Moebius SJ earlier in the year when I could. Just have to wait for funds to get the inards.
                            Well, considering the wonderful job you did breathing life into that MARLIN kit, I have no doubt you will assemble and operate one killer SKIPJACK.

                            Anyone interested in Ken's submarine work, here's a video for you:



                            David
                            Who is John Galt?

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                            • greenman407
                              Admiral
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 7530

                              #15
                              WOW! Ken_NJ, you really dolled that baby up! Turned it into a Museum piece.
                              IT TAKES GREAT INTELLIGENCE TO FAKE SUCH STUPIDITY!

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