Mare Island SC - San Francisco Fly Casting Ponds Submarine Regatta Sept.28-29, 2024

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  • Albacore 569
    Commander

    • Sep 2020
    • 452

    Mare Island SC - San Francisco Fly Casting Ponds Submarine Regatta Sept.28-29, 2024

    Some Photos from Saturday 9-28-24. Photos of my sub models, others & the ponds.

    The Golden Gate Park in San Francico features concrete ponds with very wide flat bottom. The water is filtered and circulated so it's also always pleasant. The city park department for some reason, (maybe to hide any potential pond scum? - but never have ever seen any) tints the water blue. This makes the water translucent to see almost to the 4.5-foot bottom. The sides slope steeply down 45 degrees and there is a wonderful launching basin to launch & retrieve models. Safe enough to wade in and still plenty deep enough for more than periscope depth for submarines models. Realistic, quite ideal!




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    Tim Sinecal who drove two days from Colorado brought his new 1/32 Type 21, Type 23, & a Fantastic Voyage Proteus.

    The wonderful launch basin for us old guys with heavy models.

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    The small boat beyond is the local chapters camera boat with swivel elevating still and video camera on mast.







    John Kinkele's model of Graham Hawkes Deep Flight. Uses twin small props and elevon stern planes. Swivel elevating video camera in glass nose.
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  • Albacore 569
    Commander

    • Sep 2020
    • 452

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    Sub driver buddy David Marquez & some of his 11-sub fleet. He is preparing his small 1/144 scale Seawolf.
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    • RCSubGuy
      Welcome to my underwater realm!

      • Aug 2009
      • 1884

      #3
      Arethuse is a gorgeous boat. I wasn't sure when we started that, but she sure grew on me...

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      • Albacore 569
        Commander

        • Sep 2020
        • 452

        #4
        Originally posted by RCSubGuy
        Arethuse is a gorgeous boat. I wasn't sure when we started that, but she sure grew on me...
        Thank you, Bob, it had the same effect growing on me too. The size & scale configuration (small boat subject in a big scale) would make a good kit.

        Granted it features a bow plane arrangement that's unusual, more sophisticated than most other bow plane configurations. Neither better nor worse in effectiveness. But never any bow planes hanging out there in the stream till needed.
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        • wlambing
          Commander

          • Nov 2020
          • 327

          #5
          Jealous!!! Venue, access, times/year, water quality all go toward amplification of the jealousy factor!!!

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          • ffr2608
            Commander

            • Oct 2009
            • 307

            #6
            I am very fond of that launch basin….Also glad someone tackled the Deepflight 1. I tried a few times but never executed…
            DH

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            • Albacore 569
              Commander

              • Sep 2020
              • 452

              #7
              Here is a satellite image (google Earth) of the fly casting ponds in SF.

              The Mare Island chapter of the Sub Committee only visits that site once a year, but it's always regarded as a notable event.

              Measuring the pond on google Earth, the one pond on left we use is 120 feet by 175 feet. 4.5 feet constant depth

              Credit for locating and securing the site goes to Tom Anderson some 15 years ago. The fly-Casting club graciously allows us use of one of the ponds (the western most one) for the sub drivers the two days on a single weekend annually. The Calander date was selected by Tom because it coincided with Tom's Wife Birthday. Tom's Wife sadly passed away a few years ago but we maintain the same date on the calendar generally around that same time of year in honor of Mrs. Anderson.

              Weather varies. Usually, its overcast and it can be foggy to bright sunshine. San Franciscos many microclimates in the city. The overcast was ideal as then there are less worries concern about the hulls on display warming and possibly distorting. We bring tents but not everyone has one. Despite some media sources bad mouthing San Francisco, the site is always trouble free, the visitors are very friendly and interested and ask very intelligent questions. They are only disappointed when we tell them the event is just once a year.

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              • Das Boot
                Rear Admiral

                • Dec 2019
                • 1328

                #8
                Great location and awesome looking boats.
                Of the 40,000 men who served on German submarines, 30,000 never returned.”

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                • Schmitty1944
                  Lieutenant Commander

                  • Mar 2021
                  • 129

                  #9
                  What a great location. you guys are lucky. Love that big type XXI. Is that a kit? who made it?

                  Jason

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                  • Albacore 569
                    Commander

                    • Sep 2020
                    • 452

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Schmitty1944
                    What a great location. you guys are lucky. Love that big type XXI. Is that a kit? who made it?

                    Jason


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                    This model seems to have a long history. I waited till others with accurate information, mainly based on a conversation from Tim Senical and Sam Reichart in a SC web post could forward text me back first. Tim is the present boats highly capable owner

                    This model is a rare one. It is a rare 32nd Parallel model kit originally purchased by the late Bud Lederer. Not many were made it was reported. Model is about 8 feet long.
                    Skip Asay helped Bud fit her out. Originally the model had trim tanks and 'other goodies'. Tim also owns Skip Asay's venerable Type XXIII which was present at the regatta too!

                    Tim replaced missing pieces and added a new custom OTW twin prop shaft dive module. Once all trimmed right it will likely weigh a little over 50 lbs.
                    The model was gutted when Tim received it. So, the restoration is 1st class!

                    Observing the model operating in the picture, the prop shafts seemed to need more attention, (stiffening or bracing). Sure, it will be fixed too. It was an impressive model and happy Tim brought her along from Colorado.



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                    • Schmitty1944
                      Lieutenant Commander

                      • Mar 2021
                      • 129

                      #11
                      Thanks for posting the info and photos. That is a very interesting history to that model. I knew Bud Lederer. I was just getting into RC subs and I think he was near the end of his journey. I ran subs with him a few times at events probably around the mid 1990's. We both lived in the Seattle area. I have to admit I don't remember the XXI. He usually had a Type VII and a IX (both 1/32nd scale).

                      Interestingly Simon Smith from 32nd parallel commented on one of Bob's recent youtube videos. It's the first time I've seen or heard anything from them in decades. Maybe We'll hear more from him about the company and there models history in the future. Because I got into subs in the 90's I'm a bit nostalgic about the models from that era and just interested in the history of model subs in general.

                      Jason

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