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A Type XXIII in Ireland

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  • #31
    There is this plan
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    The hole is a horn.
    If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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    • #32
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      I miss my Type XXIII.


      Keep up the great work!
      Last edited by trout; 04-20-2019, 09:23 PM.
      If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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      • #33
        Thanks buddy.

        The one on the scope is clearly detachable, I wonder was the tower one the same, the wire being on the other side where you can't see it.

        Brilliant photos.

        Tob
        ''We're after men, and I wish to God I was with them........!''

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        • #34
          Rob,

          The toplight as shown on the picture from Tom was never issued on the type XXIII, they had a lightbulb inside the perocope housing beneath, and projected that light through the scope, as for the type VII, they first used the one attached to the scope, minor thing on that was, you first have to remove the light before you could crashdive.

          Manfred.
          Fertig zum unterwasser.

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          • #35
            Thanks Manfred.

            Adding the small details, lifts the tower.

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            Going to complete the tower as three separate sections.

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            My usual stand, oak effect and a name from Signomatic.

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            The Boattrainman

            ''We're after men, and I wish to God I was with them........!''

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            • #36
              More tower details, the voice pipe from 1mm brass......

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              ......and the aerials, now these were a problem, they are vulnerable , so I settled on making them and the mounts first and running them through the hull to be secured with epoxy. Copper lower tubes 1.5mm, white metal mounts, 0.5mm steel aerials and a tiny bit of heat-shrink tubing on each.

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              I went with two 3mm LEDs in each light box, here's the wiring, resistors and copper heat sink, to be hidden in a small cupboard, finally got the handrail finished as well.

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              So that's the tower more or less upgraded (but not glued together yet)...............
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              ................not adding the flag poles as too fragile, but the mounts remain and I beefed up the hatch spring the original was too weedy, and added the stanchion to assist crew accessing the ladder on the front of the tower.

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              The Boattrainman
              Last edited by The Boattrainman; 04-24-2019, 04:07 PM.
              ''We're after men, and I wish to God I was with them........!''

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              • #37
                I like the work you are doing!
                If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                • #38
                  Thanks buddy.

                  I've decided to make that rear light, even though it may be unique to one boat.

                  I used a 2mm round LED (usually used for model railway loco lighting) pushed out the rear of the tower, and embedded the resistor and wiring in epoxy.

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                  The light housing is a 4mm plastic tube with a hole on both sides.

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                  The LED is just visible from the rear, as it should.

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                  I will fill in the sides with filler and hopefully the illusion will be that it hangs on the L bracket.

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                  It's great to have something a bit different, there's a lot of model Type XXIIIs out there!

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                  The Boattrainman
                  ''We're after men, and I wish to God I was with them........!''

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                  • #39
                    That is a cool solution for getting the light through. I often think of Hollywood when building details. If you visit a Hollywood set the front of a building may look real, but behind the building it is just framework. This is what you are doing. You are giving the illusion that the L bracket is where the wiring is coming from. I love it. It makes this sub your sub and that is awesome!
                    If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                    • #40
                      Sure, all models are 'illusions', and I always think model railways are like 'plays', the front is the stage and the model trains the actors, backstage it's a diff story. Many UK exhibition layouts have copied theatre lighting and the proscenium arch, where the acion is confined to a defined space.

                      Have to say that for a few bucks this kit, and the tower in particular are superb to work with, the fit and finish is excellent, hat's off to Bronco (who seem to specialise in Military vehicles).

                      Rob
                      ''We're after men, and I wish to God I was with them........!''

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                      • #41
                        I found mine went together rather well. I would love to see them do another sub of this quality.
                        If you can cut, drill, saw, hit things and swear a lot, you're well on the way to building a working model sub.

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                        • #42
                          Nice work Rob,

                          It supports my opinion to add more details to make your boat stand out in the crowd.
                          I did made those antenna's retractable for the same reason you beefed them up, the flagpoles i can remove when needed.
                          As Tom stated, the rearlight is a nice trick, building historical correct is a matter of opinion, as long as you are satisfied with the result it's OK, unless you are building a specific number, but that is a completely other story.
                          And yes, compared to the price it's a nice detailed well fitting submarine, ready for adding some extra stuff.

                          Manfred.
                          Fertig zum unterwasser.

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                          • #43
                            The WTC is a Ron Perrott item (R and R engineering), made especially for this sub and now available to all, includes drive motor, ballast pump, three servos, pushord magnetic connectors, and an On/Off switch and has approx. 450ml capacity, enough for this small sub.


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                            Ron added an extra servo and outlet for the foreward dives planes for me.

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                            The bulkheads for the 70mm WTC are made from 3.2mm styrene, and braced with Davids small triangular fittings he sent me.

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                            The rear bulkhead has an adjustment fitting from 4mm stainless rod, the blue water inlet slots into this and holds the WTC in place.

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                            .................you can just see it here, stops the WTC rotating, sliding backwards or rising at the rear.

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                            At the other end the upper hull has small bulkhead that presses down on the WTC, stopping it rising at the front and a small bit of plastic on the front bulkhead to stop it sliding forward......

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                            .......the WTC is held in place with no screws or fixings and can be simply lifted out from the magnetic connectors on the pushrods once the prop shaft coupler is undone.

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                            At 615mm in length the WTC is a very tight fit but with a bit of trial and error I have it sorted.

                            The Boattrainman


                            Last edited by The Boattrainman; 05-19-2019, 01:46 PM.
                            ''We're after men, and I wish to God I was with them........!''

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                            • #44
                              I finished the wiring of the WTC and it was a challenge to say the least.
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                              Up till now, I didn't get the fascination of micro subs, but after three weeks trying to fit it all in I kinda get it.

                              I made a new battery tray.......

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                              ........ I want to put 2 X 12V 2400mah rechargeable Nimh packs so the original had to go as it's for a 3700mah lipo.

                              The dry cells are for illustration only, waiting for the packs to arrive.

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                              On the reverse side are the two 15amp Mtronic ESCs and the Futaba Receiver.......

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                              ......they just about fit, and are held with small styrene surrounds.


                              The only other thing I could squeeze in here was a switch for the ESC that feeds the receiver.....

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                              .......a micro push button that sticks through the end plate and can be actuated by just removing the forward WTC cap.


                              And here is that cap.......

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                              ........I added bolts through the cap to solder tags so I can attach a charger, then I don't have to remove the batteries for charging. The red/brown cable will go to a plug taking power to the nav light in the tower.

                              The aerial is wrapped around the battery box inside the WTC.

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                              And finally the motor and servo tray........

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                              .......main switch with through hull push rod......

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                              ..........and an added 15amp fuse and the pitch controller on a custom made styrene mount over the pump motor.

                              Time consuming, more from trying to work out where it will all go and still ensure everything can be removed if broken.

                              The Boattrainman
                              Last edited by The Boattrainman; 05-31-2019, 03:00 PM.
                              ''We're after men, and I wish to God I was with them........!''

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                              • #45
                                No worries about charging batteries in a sealed container?-maybe vent the chamber when charging..

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